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Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by caleyjag
(Post 7634956)
Whatever plan you take for long-term living in the US, it's going to take a long time to realize. I have enough money to buy a cheap house in the US, but that is pretty much meaningless if I'm not allowed to go there. |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by mdx989
(Post 7634970)
If it happens at all tbh.
I have enough money to buy a cheap house in the US, but that is pretty much meaningless if I'm not allowed to go there. |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by mdx989
(Post 7634970)
If it happens at all tbh.
I have enough money to buy a cheap house in the US, but that is pretty much meaningless if I'm not allowed to go there. You shouldn't give up at the first hurdle. OK, you may never get here but one of the traits of many expats is tenaciousness. Getting into the US is very difficult and many of us experienced major setbacks before we finally got that golden ticket. Have you considered any colleges? What do you want to do, where would be the best place to go for that degree? Forget cost for the moment because a private school may look expensive but they may have some kind of funding for international students.. unlikely but explore the possibility. Here is a link to a site most high school students use as a starting point http://www.collegeboard.com/ |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by mdx989
(Post 7634970)
If it happens at all tbh.
I have enough money to buy a cheap house in the US, but that is pretty much meaningless if I'm not allowed to go there. Don't give up so easily. Caleyjag's suggestion is a damn good one. Do the first bit (study in UK, do a 1-year exchange in the US) to find out if you even lilke living in the US first. If you don't, you saved yourself a lot of hassle. If you love it, the 10 year plan might look a lot more reasonable at that point. |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by dunroving
(Post 7635160)
May I remind you that in your OP you said "I'm not naive and wouldn't expect the process to be simple or easy" ... did you forget already?
I'm willing to do anything as long as I'm sure that I won't be wasting my time. Don't give up so easily. Caleyjag's suggestion is a damn good one. Do the first bit (study in UK, do a 1-year exchange in the US) And how many even offer exchanges? to find out if you even lilke living in the US first. |
Re: Studying at a US university?
I am at CSU even on a H4 its expensive - I do some part time courses and online - I have a friend here paying international student rates they are 47k per year USD ..........................
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Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by kel.n.issy
(Post 7635180)
I am at CSU even on a H4 its expensive - I do some part time courses and online - I have a friend here paying international student rates they are 47k per year USD ..........................
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Re: Studying at a US university?
From Wikipedia on student exchange programs:
"The London Metropolitan University has several student exchange programmes with academic institutions abroad. The list of U.S. partner institutions includes Alverno College, Canisius College, City College of New York, Roosevelt University, San Francisco State University, Utah State University, Western Carolina University, and SUNY Cortland." Have you been on this site: http://www.internationalstudent.com/study_usa/ And this one for international scholarships: http://www.internationalscholarships.com/ |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by mdx989
(Post 7635173)
No I haven't forgotten. I'm not lookng for a shortcut, but I'm not going to make huge commitements to a miserable 10 years of academia for something that may not work out anyway.
I'm willing to do anything as long as I'm sure that I won't be wasting my time. Don't you realise how difficult it is to gain entry to a 'Good' UK university? (Oxbridge and LSE are probably the only 3) And how many even offer exchanges? There is no question of that. None. Whatsoever. Hold your horses! You need to pause for a minute. You are obviously going to need to do some research on UK universities first. There's more to life than Oxbridge. ALL of the top 20 universities in the UK have exchange programs to the US. ALL of the top 20 universities in the UK have at least a few world-class faculty who will be able to make things happen for you, should you take an interest in their field of research. Judging what is a top 20 university isn't hard. The Times and the Guardian both produce annual lists judged from a teaching perspective. The government's RAE report measures the research output (the three lists generally correlate quite closely). For some fields, Oxbridge isn't even where it's at. For optics, as an example, Imperial and St Andrews are arguably the two best institutions in the UK. If you don't have the A-levels you need right now, you can always do a foundation course and work your way in through the side door. As said above, tenacity is the key. And yeah, I do realize how difficult it is to get a decent university. But if you can't rise to that first challenge, how do you expect to convince an American employer down the line that you are a better candidate for a job than someone who went to Harvard?? |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by caleyjag
(Post 7634472)
5. Hurrah! Due to your now-impressive scientific CV and your broad network of scientific collaborators, you can now secure a post-doctoral position at a top US university. Pitch for a minimum of 2 years. Work hard, and make sure your research is well publicized in the literature and on the web. Highlight those niche skills you have been acquiring! |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by Aurelia
(Post 7634797)
Also, don't be so concerned about the money. There are student loans readily available and you can always work while you are in school. And you still need to show you have the funds or the means of paying tuition and living expenses to get the visa in the first place. Best bet really is an exchange year, Brunel do a good exchange with San Fran as part of the sandwich year and you can apply for ERASMUS funding to cover the exchange expense, well part of it. Spots are pretty competitive though and you've got to be a bit nifty to get on one of the design courses in the first place. |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by mdx989
(Post 7635173)
And how many even offer exchanges?
I had a mate that wanted to do an exchange with a place in Sydney, he organised it himself. |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by Bob
(Post 7635417)
That's rubbish...student loans aren't readily available, and they are for LPR's or USC's for the most part. And no, you can't just work while in school, it's limited to part time and on campus work only.
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Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by TimberHut
(Post 7634875)
LOL - just a few!
Would be good to see if anyone could try and start this plan from scratch and make it work though. |
Re: Studying at a US university?
Originally Posted by caleyjag
(Post 7635380)
Hold your horses!
You need to pause for a minute. You are obviously going to need to do some research on UK universities first. There's more to life than Oxbridge. ALL of the top 20 universities in the UK have exchange programs to the US. ALL of the top 20 universities in the UK have at least a few world-class faculty who will be able to make things happen for you, should you take an interest in their field of research. Judging what is a top 20 university isn't hard. The Times and the Guardian both produce annual lists judged from a teaching perspective. The government's RAE report measures the research output (the three lists generally correlate quite closely). For some fields, Oxbridge isn't even where it's at. For optics, as an example, Imperial and St Andrews are arguably the two best institutions in the UK. If you don't have the A-levels you need right now, you can always do a foundation course and work your way in through the side door. As said above, tenacity is the key. And yeah, I do realize how difficult it is to get a decent university. But if you can't rise to that first challenge, how do you expect to convince an American employer down the line that you are a better candidate for a job than someone who went to Harvard?? I probably should have mentioned that I'm currently at a UK university; though not a particularly good one in my opinion (usually ranks anywhere between 20 - 40 in most UK rankings) and I'm not aware of any US exchange programs here. Hence, starting again at another UK university doesn't really appeal. |
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