Re: SSN how Long?
 

We had similar problems with one of our sons. We made an Infopass appointment with the local CIS and found that, even though he had been granted LPR status, the computer "system" had not been updated, so there was no way for the SSA to verify his status.

Some "system"... :rolleyes:

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Certain. They checked by DOB, A-number, name, date of entry & POE.... every search came up empty. She was working off his passport rather than us telling her the information, so I'm reasonably sure that she got at least ONE of them correct.

In the further humiliation to get a driver's licence thread, Officer DiPShit at the DPS decided that the IV expiration date in Toon's passport constituted the date his green card would expire. He would not listen to me that that date is six months from issuance and is the "must-enter-by" date, NOT the expiry date, which is clearly stated as ONE YEAR.

He said he would use his uniformed officer power of discretion if we could prove we were married. Now, a marriage licence is a tertiary form of ID, but he was using it to imply LPR. He would have accepted having my last name be the same as Toon's but I haven't changed it because I have children from my first marriage who share that name. Now THAT's real proof of marriage. I drove through rush-hour traffic to the county clerk's office and back to DPS with a marriage licence and Officer DPS took a copy of MY passport as well!

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OK since it was an immigrant visa did you check off on the DS-230 to be assigned an SSN and how long had you been here before you applied. I assume you didn't have the I-551 card yet and I believe the issuing of that might be what triggers the info to be entered into the system for people with immigrant visas. Since for nonimmigrant visa holders it's the info from the I-94 and you didn't get one of those at the POE.

BTW the only 2 things that are used to check status in SAVE are the A# or I-94#. The Machine Readable Immigrant Visa (MRIV) shows the alien's identification number ("A" number) as the "Registration Number" in the upper right-hand corner of the MRIV.

If you did check off on the DS-230 did they look to see if an application was pending or that an SSN had been assigned?

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Tricky question.... the box had been ticked on the visa application AND an application was pending based upon filing with SSA directly; but the pending application could not be processed because they didn't have any information on his work status, etc from DHS. The filed application triggered the "pull" request by SSA to DHS for status; no word yet; and nothing was "pushed" from DHS to SSA upon landing. And that means that the wait is indefinite for either a number or the actual SSN card.

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OK then we will assume that they checked to see if an application was pending or SSN assigned based on the DS-230.

If the SSA office sends the G-845, suggest that you go back to the
SSA office no more than once a week with your documents to (1) ask them
to check SAVE again (2) ask if they sent a G-845 (3) if yes, did it come
back (4) after 30 days ask if they have followed up on the G-845 by
calling or sending another mark "second request."
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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203720
RM 00203.720 Verifying Immigration Documents
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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203735
RM 00203.735 Requesting Online (Primary) Verification By SAVE
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After having waited at least 30 days and your local SSA office doesn't
seen concerned about following up on the G-845 she can try contacting
the SSA Regional Office (RO) responsible for your state:

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/natlpocontacts.html

Refer them to this:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203740
RM 00203.740 Requesting Additional (Manual) Verification By DHS

B. PROCEDURE – HOW TO REQUEST MANUAL VERIFICATION

STEP 6

DHS should respond to SSA within 15 federal work days after receiving
the Form G-845. If DHS does not respond within 15 federal work days from
the receipt of the G-845 from SSA, follow-up with the DHS, USCIS
Immigration Status office. (Allow 15 days plus five additional federal
work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from
DHS.

Follow local practice to follow-up with DHS. Some SSA offices have an
arrangement with the DHS, USCIS office to telephone for the follow-up
contact; other SSA offices send a copy of the original G-845 annotated
“second request.”) If the DHS response is still not received within 15
federal work days after the follow-up contact (if the follow-up is by
mail allow five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845
to be received at and returned from DHS), make a second follow-up
contact. If the DHS response is not received within 15 federal workdays
(again, if the follow-up is by mail, allow five additional federal work
days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from
DHS), after two follow-ups, contact the RO. Also report to the RO any trend that shows a serious deviation by DHS from the above time frames. The RO will consult with central office.

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We'll keep working on the SSN but the real problem was that he HAS to get a driving licence in Texas in the next two weeks -- and since there's no DHS info in the computer, the card ain't going to arrive in two weeks.

The DMV know this, and the SSA people claimed that they've sent stuff to the DMV (called DPS here) and that DMV should KNOW that there are people who fall into this hole. There's an affidavit you can sign saying that you've not applied for an SSN, or you have but aren't eligible. I kept asking about the part about "applying" because if you apply, you aren't eligible to sign the affidavit. I got told that a) even if you'd applied but hadn't received it yet, sign the affidavit; and b) ticking the box on the visa app doesn't constitute applying but applying in person does; and so on.

In the end we signed because I believe that he isn't eligible *at this time*. Not until the computer shows up his SAVE data. NOT getting the licence means we'd both lose our car insurance and I can't let that happen.

What really got me was the knobhead who kept insisting that the MRIV I-551 stamp in Toon's passport that said IV expires Oct 2006 meant that it was only valid until October, which is completely untrue! He kept saying that the Real ID act was coming soon and that we were lucky that he was willing to work with us....

Anyway, the different branches of government, DHS, SSA, and the state DMV cannot coordinate anything to save themselves. No wonder Katrina went down like it did. The whole effing point of having machine-readable visas is to make data entry and transfer faster and more accurate. But in my view if you can't transfer data in two weeks, your business is screwed up. If WalMart or Home Depot couldn't transfer inventory/income/expense data in two weeks, there would be chaos. If a big business can do it, so can the government. They just don't care, honestly.

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5 weeks since I applied. Called up the 800 number yesterday, left message to call me back , they didn't. I called again today and talked to someone and I was told that no SSN yet when I requested for a manual verification, she refused and said it was not long enough.I should keep on waiting. I asked if I can call the USCIS myself to follow up, she got agitated. I applied mine from Bellevue office in Washington, I went to that office personally last time but was told not to come unless I receive a confirmation letter. As of now, they wont do anything. Which office should I go to get a better response ?

Re: SSN how Long?
 

Make an Inforpass appointment with your local CIS to check that your status has been updated in their system. We found with our son that it hadn't, even though he was approved and had an I-551 stamp in his passport.

Once they'd updated the system, he got his SSN within a few days (but you'd have to go to the SSA office in person to get the number if you don't want to wait for the card to arrive through the mail - that took another 10 days or so).

HTH.

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Thanks, I will try it.

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This may be a record of sorts. Applied for SSN in Tucson on Thursday 4th May 30 minutes before the office closed. Card received in the post Thursday 11th May from Baltimore!

By contrast my employer took more than twice that time to issue my employee ID number, and they've known I've been coming since January.

Must have been a slow week at the social security office...

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How long have you been a resident of the US?

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Two weeks, I arrived on a H1B visa on 29th April :)

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That is amazing. Where was your POE?

My husband arrived in Washington DC on the 26th April and we still haven't gotten anything from SSA. We received the 2nd "Welcome To America" letter (I-797C or something like that) on Tuesday, and separately, his "permanent" green card (the I-551 plastic card).

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I arrived in Los Angeles. I've had no "welcome to the USA" card, but seeing as I can live my life without it, no sleep is lost!

The HR people are very surprised at the speed with which it was issued. Like I say, maybe a slow social security week.