ddsrph

What do we do with the current 10,000 at our southern border with thousands more on the way? This is only a little worse than what happens as a monthly routine. Any sign that this is somewhat ok will only invite thousands more. As much as I detest Trump his power and popularity is directly related to his hard stance on immigration. In my limited understanding of Brexit wasn’t immigration a major driving force for UK leaving EU?

Former Lancastrian

There is lots of room in the US for the 10,000 plus. I am sure all these Democratic State Governors will soon be offering up hotel rooms and other stuff to welcome these unfortunate people.

ddsrph

How about the millions to come after? Any guess of the numbers involved if our policy was just get across the border and you are home free?

Former Lancastrian

Well isn't that the great conundrum of quite a few countries in the world? I have never heard the US, UK, Canada, Germany and a few others put a cap on the number of refugees/migrants they are willing to accept. One thing Covid has taught us that money trees appear to be growing freely the way some Governments have been spending so I am sure there is money to provide for the unfortunate.

ddsrph

I have very limited stake in the issue, about same as my stake in climate change. Over 70 married with no children.

OldJuddian

With current demographic changes there will soon be a time when USA will be looking to immigrants to stop population decline. However it is not politically acceptable today.

Having said that a country should enforce the current immigration rules fully. Which is not to say that the current rules are fair, but they are what exists today. If people do not like the consequence of the rules, then change the policy.

Lion in Winter

People will continue to migrate for as long as there are major forces driving them to leave wherever it is they originally come from. That is the entire history of our species (and that of others) and part of the adaptability that has made us successful. It transcends state borders and laws and can't ever really be stopped. Only thing to do is prevent the situations that make large numbers of people desperate to move in the first place, but we are currently doing the opposite.

scrubbedexpat091

Yep these invisible lines we have created go against the natural world.

ddsrph

Its not as simple as that. They aren’t coming here for better climate or hunting. Out of control immigration will lead to elected officials being more Trump than Trump.

Lion in Winter

I've been here a long time. Some "illegal" immigrants have been welcomed, some not, but it has never stopped and it never will. Not while the conditions exist that drive them. Trumpists or no Trumpists. Businesses that support Trump have also been instrumental in enabling "illegal" immigration, and that has also been the case for decades - I remember visiting some meat packing plants near Dubuque that were doing exactly that, with concrete huts set up to house the workers in. Illegal immigration is an industry, driving not only the economy but the various border agencies and those agencies and businesses that support them. We only pretend that we want the migration to stop.

scrubbedexpat099

The US government says it plans to fly the migrants back to where they began their journeys.

Flights are expected to start on Sunday, with the US currently negotiating returns with the countries in question.

​​​​​​https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58612566

BEVS

Probably reading this wrongly but NZ has a cap on the intake of refugees. It is 1500 per annum I believe at the moment. It also has a cap for assorted immigration policies although all of that is on hold right now.

MMcD

The existential threat to America lurks, has awakened, and is fast metastasising - not from without, but from within.

What's happening at its border will not destroy this country.

Unless we confront and deflect the fascistic tide sweeping over us from within, its tsunami is what will overwhelm America.
Maybe it will even halt "immigration invasion"

scrubbedexpat099

It is amazing how quickly things change.

Can you imagine the outrage this would have caused only a year ago?

civilservant

Based on the current demographic shifts it is only a matter of time before the majority of Congress is made up of non-whites. Something tells me that immigration policy will be significantly easier to change when/if that happens.

As to what we do about it now, how am I supposed to know? Many people much smarter than I am have come up with ideas that have either failed or never got started.