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That's hysterical about parents, kids and dog in therapy! I can quite believe it - one sees so many stressed out people in this neck of the woods....
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I was once seeing my mum off at JFK and her flight was delayed. I got talking to an African family; it turned out that they were diplomats and one of the family was moving out to China for a new posting. They had children in their party and it turned out that they were attending the United Nations school in NYC; oddly enough they didn't rate the school at all! They were thinking of sending the kids to an English-style boarding school as they themselves had an English education back in Africa and thought that the tuition and discipline was far superior to what their children were experiencing at UNIS.
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I was once seeing my mum off at JFK and her flight was delayed. I got talking to an African family; it turned out that they were diplomats and one of the family was moving out to China for a new posting. They had children in their party and it turned out that they were attending the United Nations school in NYC; oddly enough they didn't rate the school at all! They were thinking of sending the kids to an English-style boarding school as they themselves had an English education back in Africa and thought that the tuition and discipline was far superior to what their children were experiencing at UNIS.
"My immediate next-door neighbours are psychiatrists and the wife - whose clients include some celebrities in NYC - told me that I'm the most 'normal' person that she's ever met.....)"
Englishmum, of course your normal, your British.
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Ps. Funny thing about living in NYC, people told you with pride, they were in therapy. Complete strangers, "My 2 children 6 & 7 have their therapists. Its scary.
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"My immediate next-door neighbours are psychiatrists and the wife - whose clients include some celebrities in NYC - told me that I'm the most 'normal' person that she's ever met.....)"
Englishmum, of course your normal, your British.
Reg. Frank R.
Ps. Funny thing about living in NYC, people told you with pride, they were in therapy. Complete strangers, "My 2 children 6 & 7 have their therapists. Its scary.
Englishmum, of course your normal, your British.
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Ps. Funny thing about living in NYC, people told you with pride, they were in therapy. Complete strangers, "My 2 children 6 & 7 have their therapists. Its scary.
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Hi Happy. We are in the UK after moving from HK a couple of years ago AND we are from NY.
A few things to consider:
1. Schools in Westchester. The quality of the public schools vary by town, so you'll want to check into the public school system of the Westchester town you're considering. Perhaps your relo people can help with this.
2. If your husband or you will work near Grand Central Station, Westchester is better. If the office is downtown near Wall Street or Battery Park, anything along the PATH trains, including Hoboken and Jersey City (getting nicer and nicer), are better.
3. Many parts of Connecticut are good for Grand Central Station too. Some towns in Connecticut also have good public schools but you'll have to look them up.
4. Sailing. Towns like Larchmont, New Rochelle, Mamaroneck are along the water in Westchester. Connecticut has some nice town for this too.
5. Leave your amah in HK -- unless you are ready to continually increase her salary as her job performance declines. She'll likely take off on you...and if not, your relationship might very well become sour if, you're not as mentioned above, continually increasing her salary...and providing her with a car to drive and what not. We took our amah with us here, and that's the way it went! And we were good to her.
There are plenty of people to help you in the States; if you need advice, feel free to PM me. If you want a Filipina to help you, I have a good connection to share. But yes, au pairs are very popular and there are tons of good, qualified childcare people around you. And of course, you could find a cleaner as well. Like in England, you'll rarely find the same person to do both childcare and cleaning in the States.
Just to address some of the things that have been said...
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Missing the HK vibe? Well I guess it depends what HK is like for you. I don't miss it at all! In fact the relocation to the UK was so refreshing. Yes, you can't pop to Thailand as often, but the clean air, being able to use the outside areas without the oppressive heat and pollution, etc.? Phenomenal! Westchester and Hoboken are very different places. Some places in New Jersey and Westchester aren't that different from one another. Brooklyn is yet another way to live. So it depends what you are interested in. But while Westchester is different than LKF and HK in general, it's a great place for families; I'd suggest not going too far north of the city -- or too far away from the trains to Grand Central Station...that way you can have fun in NYC too. By the way, Some parts of Riverdale are great for capitalizing on the best of both worlds too (i.e. suburb and city access).
Not everyone...in fact most of us from NY...thinks that the people going on about their therapists is normal...in fact, we think they're nuts. So if someone's bragging about it, don't think it's an all-around accepted thing, please!
Westchester has a lot of really lovely properties and the Stepford Wives comment isn't quite correct -- there are a lot of very wealthy people, but a lot of the wives are business execs too...smart, fun, etc.
Manhattan is very much NY but a different beast in that there are people there from all over the USA and all over the world. (Some parts of Brooklyn have become a bit like that over the past 8 or 9 years too.) My point: You will find all kinds of people there and not all will be representative of what people in all of NYC, NY or the States are like. In fact, in Manhattan in general, I have found time and time again that a lot of people go there to fulfill a dream...and sometimes even an identity, someone or something they 'want' or 'think' the should be. It seems this ends up translating into a lot of wackiness...people seem to be striving to impress, some lose themselves, etc.. Not to say some of the life-long Manhattanites are all sane
but I think you'd find more craziness among the people who came to the NY area already expecting something different --- kind of expecting it to define them...even if just in the eyes of others. Make sense? I hope I expressed that well; my toddler is climbing on me.
Good luck! And again, if you could use further advice and want to PM, feel free; I'm happy to help.
Cheers!
A few things to consider:
1. Schools in Westchester. The quality of the public schools vary by town, so you'll want to check into the public school system of the Westchester town you're considering. Perhaps your relo people can help with this.
2. If your husband or you will work near Grand Central Station, Westchester is better. If the office is downtown near Wall Street or Battery Park, anything along the PATH trains, including Hoboken and Jersey City (getting nicer and nicer), are better.
3. Many parts of Connecticut are good for Grand Central Station too. Some towns in Connecticut also have good public schools but you'll have to look them up.
4. Sailing. Towns like Larchmont, New Rochelle, Mamaroneck are along the water in Westchester. Connecticut has some nice town for this too.
5. Leave your amah in HK -- unless you are ready to continually increase her salary as her job performance declines. She'll likely take off on you...and if not, your relationship might very well become sour if, you're not as mentioned above, continually increasing her salary...and providing her with a car to drive and what not. We took our amah with us here, and that's the way it went! And we were good to her.
There are plenty of people to help you in the States; if you need advice, feel free to PM me. If you want a Filipina to help you, I have a good connection to share. But yes, au pairs are very popular and there are tons of good, qualified childcare people around you. And of course, you could find a cleaner as well. Like in England, you'll rarely find the same person to do both childcare and cleaning in the States.
Just to address some of the things that have been said...
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Missing the HK vibe? Well I guess it depends what HK is like for you. I don't miss it at all! In fact the relocation to the UK was so refreshing. Yes, you can't pop to Thailand as often, but the clean air, being able to use the outside areas without the oppressive heat and pollution, etc.? Phenomenal! Westchester and Hoboken are very different places. Some places in New Jersey and Westchester aren't that different from one another. Brooklyn is yet another way to live. So it depends what you are interested in. But while Westchester is different than LKF and HK in general, it's a great place for families; I'd suggest not going too far north of the city -- or too far away from the trains to Grand Central Station...that way you can have fun in NYC too. By the way, Some parts of Riverdale are great for capitalizing on the best of both worlds too (i.e. suburb and city access).
Not everyone...in fact most of us from NY...thinks that the people going on about their therapists is normal...in fact, we think they're nuts. So if someone's bragging about it, don't think it's an all-around accepted thing, please!
Westchester has a lot of really lovely properties and the Stepford Wives comment isn't quite correct -- there are a lot of very wealthy people, but a lot of the wives are business execs too...smart, fun, etc.
Manhattan is very much NY but a different beast in that there are people there from all over the USA and all over the world. (Some parts of Brooklyn have become a bit like that over the past 8 or 9 years too.) My point: You will find all kinds of people there and not all will be representative of what people in all of NYC, NY or the States are like. In fact, in Manhattan in general, I have found time and time again that a lot of people go there to fulfill a dream...and sometimes even an identity, someone or something they 'want' or 'think' the should be. It seems this ends up translating into a lot of wackiness...people seem to be striving to impress, some lose themselves, etc.. Not to say some of the life-long Manhattanites are all sane
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Good luck! And again, if you could use further advice and want to PM, feel free; I'm happy to help.
Cheers!
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Hi Happy. We are in the UK after moving from HK a couple of years ago AND we are from NY.
A few things to consider:
1. Schools in Westchester. The quality of the public schools vary by town, so you'll want to check into the public school system of the Westchester town you're considering. Perhaps your relo people can help with this.
2. If your husband or you will work near Grand Central Station, Westchester is better. If the office is downtown near Wall Street or Battery Park, anything along the PATH trains, including Hoboken and Jersey City (getting nicer and nicer), are better.
3. Many parts of Connecticut are good for Grand Central Station too. Some towns in Connecticut also have good public schools but you'll have to look them up.
4. Sailing. Towns like Larchmont, New Rochelle, Mamaroneck are along the water in Westchester. Connecticut has some nice town for this too.
5. Leave your amah in HK -- unless you are ready to continually increase her salary as her job performance declines. She'll likely take off on you...and if not, your relationship might very well become sour if, you're not as mentioned above, continually increasing her salary...and providing her with a car to drive and what not. We took our amah with us here, and that's the way it went! And we were good to her.
There are plenty of people to help you in the States; if you need advice, feel free to PM me. If you want a Filipina to help you, I have a good connection to share. But yes, au pairs are very popular and there are tons of good, qualified childcare people around you. And of course, you could find a cleaner as well. Like in England, you'll rarely find the same person to do both childcare and cleaning in the States.
Just to address some of the things that have been said...
...
Missing the HK vibe? Well I guess it depends what HK is like for you. I don't miss it at all! In fact the relocation to the UK was so refreshing. Yes, you can't pop to Thailand as often, but the clean air, being able to use the outside areas without the oppressive heat and pollution, etc.? Phenomenal! Westchester and Hoboken are very different places. Some places in New Jersey and Westchester aren't that different from one another. Brooklyn is yet another way to live. So it depends what you are interested in. But while Westchester is different than LKF and HK in general, it's a great place for families; I'd suggest not going too far north of the city -- or too far away from the trains to Grand Central Station...that way you can have fun in NYC too. By the way, Some parts of Riverdale are great for capitalizing on the best of both worlds too (i.e. suburb and city access).
Not everyone...in fact most of us from NY...thinks that the people going on about their therapists is normal...in fact, we think they're nuts. So if someone's bragging about it, don't think it's an all-around accepted thing, please!
Westchester has a lot of really lovely properties and the Stepford Wives comment isn't quite correct -- there are a lot of very wealthy people, but a lot of the wives are business execs too...smart, fun, etc.
Manhattan is very much NY but a different beast in that there are people there from all over the USA and all over the world. (Some parts of Brooklyn have become a bit like that over the past 8 or 9 years too.) My point: You will find all kinds of people there and not all will be representative of what people in all of NYC, NY or the States are like. In fact, in Manhattan in general, I have found time and time again that a lot of people go there to fulfill a dream...and sometimes even an identity, someone or something they 'want' or 'think' the should be. It seems this ends up translating into a lot of wackiness...people seem to be striving to impress, some lose themselves, etc.. Not to say some of the life-long Manhattanites are all sane
but I think you'd find more craziness among the people who came to the NY area already expecting something different --- kind of expecting it to define them...even if just in the eyes of others. Make sense? I hope I expressed that well; my toddler is climbing on me.
Good luck! And again, if you could use further advice and want to PM, feel free; I'm happy to help.
Cheers!![Wink](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
A few things to consider:
1. Schools in Westchester. The quality of the public schools vary by town, so you'll want to check into the public school system of the Westchester town you're considering. Perhaps your relo people can help with this.
2. If your husband or you will work near Grand Central Station, Westchester is better. If the office is downtown near Wall Street or Battery Park, anything along the PATH trains, including Hoboken and Jersey City (getting nicer and nicer), are better.
3. Many parts of Connecticut are good for Grand Central Station too. Some towns in Connecticut also have good public schools but you'll have to look them up.
4. Sailing. Towns like Larchmont, New Rochelle, Mamaroneck are along the water in Westchester. Connecticut has some nice town for this too.
5. Leave your amah in HK -- unless you are ready to continually increase her salary as her job performance declines. She'll likely take off on you...and if not, your relationship might very well become sour if, you're not as mentioned above, continually increasing her salary...and providing her with a car to drive and what not. We took our amah with us here, and that's the way it went! And we were good to her.
There are plenty of people to help you in the States; if you need advice, feel free to PM me. If you want a Filipina to help you, I have a good connection to share. But yes, au pairs are very popular and there are tons of good, qualified childcare people around you. And of course, you could find a cleaner as well. Like in England, you'll rarely find the same person to do both childcare and cleaning in the States.
Just to address some of the things that have been said...
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Missing the HK vibe? Well I guess it depends what HK is like for you. I don't miss it at all! In fact the relocation to the UK was so refreshing. Yes, you can't pop to Thailand as often, but the clean air, being able to use the outside areas without the oppressive heat and pollution, etc.? Phenomenal! Westchester and Hoboken are very different places. Some places in New Jersey and Westchester aren't that different from one another. Brooklyn is yet another way to live. So it depends what you are interested in. But while Westchester is different than LKF and HK in general, it's a great place for families; I'd suggest not going too far north of the city -- or too far away from the trains to Grand Central Station...that way you can have fun in NYC too. By the way, Some parts of Riverdale are great for capitalizing on the best of both worlds too (i.e. suburb and city access).
Not everyone...in fact most of us from NY...thinks that the people going on about their therapists is normal...in fact, we think they're nuts. So if someone's bragging about it, don't think it's an all-around accepted thing, please!
Westchester has a lot of really lovely properties and the Stepford Wives comment isn't quite correct -- there are a lot of very wealthy people, but a lot of the wives are business execs too...smart, fun, etc.
Manhattan is very much NY but a different beast in that there are people there from all over the USA and all over the world. (Some parts of Brooklyn have become a bit like that over the past 8 or 9 years too.) My point: You will find all kinds of people there and not all will be representative of what people in all of NYC, NY or the States are like. In fact, in Manhattan in general, I have found time and time again that a lot of people go there to fulfill a dream...and sometimes even an identity, someone or something they 'want' or 'think' the should be. It seems this ends up translating into a lot of wackiness...people seem to be striving to impress, some lose themselves, etc.. Not to say some of the life-long Manhattanites are all sane
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Good luck! And again, if you could use further advice and want to PM, feel free; I'm happy to help.
Cheers!
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An excellent post. Someone who really knows what they are talking about.
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I'm pretty sure the school will be quick to tell you where to 'stick your kid', too. Expected donations are just that. You want to use their service, you better tip.
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Hi Happy. We are in the UK after moving from HK a couple of years ago AND we are from NY.
A few things to consider:
1. Schools in Westchester. The quality of the public schools vary by town, so you'll want to check into the public school system of the Westchester town you're considering. Perhaps your relo people can help with this.
2. If your husband or you will work near Grand Central Station, Westchester is better. If the office is downtown near Wall Street or Battery Park, anything along the PATH trains, including Hoboken and Jersey City (getting nicer and nicer), are better.
3. Many parts of Connecticut are good for Grand Central Station too. Some towns in Connecticut also have good public schools but you'll have to look them up.
4. Sailing. Towns like Larchmont, New Rochelle, Mamaroneck are along the water in Westchester. Connecticut has some nice town for this too.
5. Leave your amah in HK -- unless you are ready to continually increase her salary as her job performance declines. She'll likely take off on you...and if not, your relationship might very well become sour if, you're not as mentioned above, continually increasing her salary...and providing her with a car to drive and what not. We took our amah with us here, and that's the way it went! And we were good to her.
There are plenty of people to help you in the States; if you need advice, feel free to PM me. If you want a Filipina to help you, I have a good connection to share. But yes, au pairs are very popular and there are tons of good, qualified childcare people around you. And of course, you could find a cleaner as well. Like in England, you'll rarely find the same person to do both childcare and cleaning in the States.
Just to address some of the things that have been said...
...
Missing the HK vibe? Well I guess it depends what HK is like for you. I don't miss it at all! In fact the relocation to the UK was so refreshing. Yes, you can't pop to Thailand as often, but the clean air, being able to use the outside areas without the oppressive heat and pollution, etc.? Phenomenal! Westchester and Hoboken are very different places. Some places in New Jersey and Westchester aren't that different from one another. Brooklyn is yet another way to live. So it depends what you are interested in. But while Westchester is different than LKF and HK in general, it's a great place for families; I'd suggest not going too far north of the city -- or too far away from the trains to Grand Central Station...that way you can have fun in NYC too. By the way, Some parts of Riverdale are great for capitalizing on the best of both worlds too (i.e. suburb and city access).
Not everyone...in fact most of us from NY...thinks that the people going on about their therapists is normal...in fact, we think they're nuts. So if someone's bragging about it, don't think it's an all-around accepted thing, please!
Westchester has a lot of really lovely properties and the Stepford Wives comment isn't quite correct -- there are a lot of very wealthy people, but a lot of the wives are business execs too...smart, fun, etc.
Manhattan is very much NY but a different beast in that there are people there from all over the USA and all over the world. (Some parts of Brooklyn have become a bit like that over the past 8 or 9 years too.) My point: You will find all kinds of people there and not all will be representative of what people in all of NYC, NY or the States are like. In fact, in Manhattan in general, I have found time and time again that a lot of people go there to fulfill a dream...and sometimes even an identity, someone or something they 'want' or 'think' the should be. It seems this ends up translating into a lot of wackiness...people seem to be striving to impress, some lose themselves, etc.. Not to say some of the life-long Manhattanites are all sane
but I think you'd find more craziness among the people who came to the NY area already expecting something different --- kind of expecting it to define them...even if just in the eyes of others. Make sense? I hope I expressed that well; my toddler is climbing on me.
Good luck! And again, if you could use further advice and want to PM, feel free; I'm happy to help.
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A few things to consider:
1. Schools in Westchester. The quality of the public schools vary by town, so you'll want to check into the public school system of the Westchester town you're considering. Perhaps your relo people can help with this.
2. If your husband or you will work near Grand Central Station, Westchester is better. If the office is downtown near Wall Street or Battery Park, anything along the PATH trains, including Hoboken and Jersey City (getting nicer and nicer), are better.
3. Many parts of Connecticut are good for Grand Central Station too. Some towns in Connecticut also have good public schools but you'll have to look them up.
4. Sailing. Towns like Larchmont, New Rochelle, Mamaroneck are along the water in Westchester. Connecticut has some nice town for this too.
5. Leave your amah in HK -- unless you are ready to continually increase her salary as her job performance declines. She'll likely take off on you...and if not, your relationship might very well become sour if, you're not as mentioned above, continually increasing her salary...and providing her with a car to drive and what not. We took our amah with us here, and that's the way it went! And we were good to her.
There are plenty of people to help you in the States; if you need advice, feel free to PM me. If you want a Filipina to help you, I have a good connection to share. But yes, au pairs are very popular and there are tons of good, qualified childcare people around you. And of course, you could find a cleaner as well. Like in England, you'll rarely find the same person to do both childcare and cleaning in the States.
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Missing the HK vibe? Well I guess it depends what HK is like for you. I don't miss it at all! In fact the relocation to the UK was so refreshing. Yes, you can't pop to Thailand as often, but the clean air, being able to use the outside areas without the oppressive heat and pollution, etc.? Phenomenal! Westchester and Hoboken are very different places. Some places in New Jersey and Westchester aren't that different from one another. Brooklyn is yet another way to live. So it depends what you are interested in. But while Westchester is different than LKF and HK in general, it's a great place for families; I'd suggest not going too far north of the city -- or too far away from the trains to Grand Central Station...that way you can have fun in NYC too. By the way, Some parts of Riverdale are great for capitalizing on the best of both worlds too (i.e. suburb and city access).
Not everyone...in fact most of us from NY...thinks that the people going on about their therapists is normal...in fact, we think they're nuts. So if someone's bragging about it, don't think it's an all-around accepted thing, please!
Westchester has a lot of really lovely properties and the Stepford Wives comment isn't quite correct -- there are a lot of very wealthy people, but a lot of the wives are business execs too...smart, fun, etc.
Manhattan is very much NY but a different beast in that there are people there from all over the USA and all over the world. (Some parts of Brooklyn have become a bit like that over the past 8 or 9 years too.) My point: You will find all kinds of people there and not all will be representative of what people in all of NYC, NY or the States are like. In fact, in Manhattan in general, I have found time and time again that a lot of people go there to fulfill a dream...and sometimes even an identity, someone or something they 'want' or 'think' the should be. It seems this ends up translating into a lot of wackiness...people seem to be striving to impress, some lose themselves, etc.. Not to say some of the life-long Manhattanites are all sane
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Good luck! And again, if you could use further advice and want to PM, feel free; I'm happy to help.
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Thank you SO much for your very considered, helpful and expert advice. I may well take up your offer to IM you when we start narrowing things down a little.
You've made the whole move seem a little more positive. I am, as my name suggests, happy in Hong Kong, but you're making NY sound pretty good too. Thank you for that.
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Hi Ladybelle,
Thank you SO much for your very considered, helpful and expert advice. I may well take up your offer to IM you when we start narrowing things down a little.
You've made the whole move seem a little more positive. I am, as my name suggests, happy in Hong Kong, but you're making NY sound pretty good too. Thank you for that.
Thank you SO much for your very considered, helpful and expert advice. I may well take up your offer to IM you when we start narrowing things down a little.
You've made the whole move seem a little more positive. I am, as my name suggests, happy in Hong Kong, but you're making NY sound pretty good too. Thank you for that.
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Anyway, you can set yourself up to enjoy all of it. Someone else gave you a great piece of advice: Expect differences, just like you did with your move to HK. I think you'll quite like it though!
Yes, definitely touch base (get in touch/pm
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Cheers!
BTW, were you on AsiaXpat too?
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