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Old Jan 25th 2006, 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by ironporer
I think we need an immediate federal law forbidding all day care children from carrying knives to day care. Might as well include baseball bats. And billy clubs. And tree branches or sticks. And pieces of pipe. And.....
No, no, no - you really have no idea ironporer, do you.
First off we need to set up a steering committee to look into the impact of children carrying offensive weapons to day care.
Following on from that we need a focus group to review the committee's findings. Then and only then can our proposed statute changes be voted out by politicians who have been bunged a few bucks by the relevant lobby groups such as the NRA, National Baseball Bat Manufacturers Alliance, etc.

Do you understand the process now ???

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Old Jan 25th 2006, 8:02 pm
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Originally Posted by britvic
Oh it seems just fine any time to show Gun's and killing on the telly, but heaven forbid no tit's or bare bum's
We had a discussion with a parent of a friend of my 12 year old as they wanted to go ans see Jarhead, I said no, its rated restricted I think for a reason, her reply to me was well its only war and killing its not like there having sex or anything!!!
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Default Re: So sad...7yr old shot in the arm at day-care center....

Originally Posted by BigDavyG
No, no, no - you really have no idea ironporer, do you.
First off we need to set up a steering committee to look into the impact of children carrying offensive weapons to day care.
Following on from that we need a focus group to review the committee's findings. Then and only then can our proposed statute changes be voted out by politicians who have been bunged a few bunks by the relevant lobby groups such as the NRA, National Baseball Bat Manufacturers Alliance, etc.

Do you understand the process now ???
You mean sell the law to the highest bidder? Never.....

Why don't they just eBay it?
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by geordiegirl2
We had a discussion with a parent of a friend of my 12 year old as they wanted to go ans see Jarhead, I said no, its rated restricted I think for a reason, her reply to me was well its only war and killing its not like there having sex or anything!!!
And she was an American right
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 8:08 pm
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Default Re: So sad...7yr old shot in the arm at day-care center....

Originally Posted by BigDavyG
No, no, no - you really have no idea ironporer, do you.
First off we need to set up a steering committee to look into the impact of children carrying offensive weapons to day care.
Following on from that we need a focus group to review the committee's findings. Then and only then can our proposed statute changes be voted out by politicians who have been bunged a few bucks by the relevant lobby groups such as the NRA, National Baseball Bat Manufacturers Alliance, etc.

Do you understand the process now ???
Perhaps this could be your new career?
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Originally Posted by britvic
And she was an American right
YES, ex military, hopes her son never has sex but go killing thats fine!!!
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Certainly not so in Florida, and most other states. You can store a firearm loaded but, in 19 states (California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas (through judicial ruling), Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Rhode Island, Texas, Virginia, Wisconsin. In addition, some cities have enacted local CAP ordinances including Elgin and Aurora, Illinois; Houston, Texas; Wichita, Kansas; and Baltimore, Maryland), you are wholly responsible for it if a child gains access from an improperly stored weapon under Child Access Prevention (CAP) laws.

If you reasonably beleieve that no child could have access to it (ie you live on your own) then you can leave it loaded on your coffee table if you want.
At the end of the day its down to how responsible the firearm owner is and yes you are right knives and other weapons will always be available. I remember playing with crow scarer's and air guns at probably the same age.
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by britontour
Perhaps this could be your new career?
Believe me, if i could get away with it i would seriously consider it
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 8:21 pm
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Believe me, if i could get away with it i would seriously consider it
True its probable a cushy number for some ex-government official to have and cash in on.
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 8:25 pm
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Default Re: So sad...7yr old shot in the arm at day-care center....

Originally Posted by BigDavyG
No, no, no - you really have no idea ironporer, do you.
First off we need to set up a steering committee to look into the impact of children carrying offensive weapons to day care.
Following on from that we need a focus group to review the committee's findings. Then and only then can our proposed statute changes be voted out by politicians who have been bunged a few bucks by the relevant lobby groups such as the NRA, National Baseball Bat Manufacturers Alliance, etc.

Do you understand the process now ???

Ok, now I get it. But one thing...shouldn't we also set up some psycological counceling programs for all the poor 8 year olds who are so traumatized by their not being able to carry weapons, I mean the poor kids might be excluded from peer groups and perhaps even ostrasized by Mentors who have unfounded fears of gun totin' wee-ones.
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by anotherlimey
You mean sell the law to the highest bidder? Never.....

Why don't they just eBay it?
I like the idea...maybe with all the new 'reform' movement preceeding the Abrahamov (sp?) scandal, we could just put congressional proposals on ebay, and do away with the entire god damn representative wing of the government? Might work for the executive and judicial also....a government of the ebay, by the ebay and for the ebay.
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 8:53 pm
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Originally Posted by BigDavyG
No, no, no - you really have no idea ironporer, do you.
First off we need to set up a steering committee to look into the impact of children carrying offensive weapons to day care.
Following on from that we need a focus group to review the committee's findings. Then and only then can our proposed statute changes be voted out by politicians who have been bunged a few bucks by the relevant lobby groups such as the NRA, National Baseball Bat Manufacturers Alliance, etc.

Do you understand the process now ???
You forgot about organising a million soccer moms to march in protest at the outrageous availability of sticks and stones to our children. And demand that all sticks and stones be removed from society incase a child throws one at another.
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by ironporer
I think we need an immediate federal law forbidding all day care children from carrying knives to day care. Might as well include baseball bats. And billy clubs. And tree branches or sticks. And pieces of pipe. And.....
School children ARE banned from carrying anything that could be a weapon to school. Some districts mandate clear (transparent) rucksacks.

You can't fit a baseball bat into most rucksacks and you generally can't do that much damage to someone with a tree branch that'd fit either. Oh, and baggy clothing is banned.
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Originally Posted by snowbunny
School children ARE banned from carrying anything that could be a weapon to school. Some districts mandate clear (transparent) rucksacks.

You can't fit a baseball bat into most rucksacks and you generally can't do that much damage to someone with a tree branch that'd fit either. Oh, and baggy clothing is banned.

You can kill someone with a rolled up magazine.
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Old Jan 25th 2006, 9:13 pm
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Originally Posted by britontour
At the end of the day its down to how responsible the firearm owner is and yes you are right knives and other weapons will always be available. I remember playing with crow scarer's and air guns at probably the same age.

Not just the firearm owner but the parent as well. Anything dangerous, sharp or otherwise should be kept out of reach of children. Our kitchen knives are stored at a level that even with a stool the kids cant reached them. Jims tool drawer is locked as well as the kitchen and bathroom cupboards where anything dangerous is stored.

Parents have a responsibility to keep dangerous items out of reach of kids!
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