Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationship?
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Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationship?
After all, the political leaders of both the US and UK have continually said over the past 40 years that how special, close, lovable and indeed adorable each other and both countries are to each other. This 'special relationship' goes back to the events of 6th June 1944 and the Normandy Landings, when both countries played a significant part and role together to help free Europe.
So, why don't both effectively put their money where their mouth is, act it out in practice and implement quid pro concessions that any British Citizen can just pop over and legally take any type of job living and working in New York or Los Angeles, and the same for any American who wishes to experience savouring the charm of the old world and living and working in London or Birmingham etc.
After all, the politicians constantly harp on about our close and shared democratic values, a similar culture and the same language.
Could this realistically work in practice, especially post Brexit by trading the 27 EU member states for the 50 US States instead?
The Americans could also use their chance to live and work in the UK to see Dublin, Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam and Cologne on the weekends.
So, why don't both effectively put their money where their mouth is, act it out in practice and implement quid pro concessions that any British Citizen can just pop over and legally take any type of job living and working in New York or Los Angeles, and the same for any American who wishes to experience savouring the charm of the old world and living and working in London or Birmingham etc.
After all, the politicians constantly harp on about our close and shared democratic values, a similar culture and the same language.
Could this realistically work in practice, especially post Brexit by trading the 27 EU member states for the 50 US States instead?
The Americans could also use their chance to live and work in the UK to see Dublin, Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam and Cologne on the weekends.
#2
Re: Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationshi
In a word: no.
#4
Re: Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationshi
After all, the political leaders of both the US and UK have continually said over the past 40 years that how special, close, lovable and indeed adorable each other and both countries are to each other. This 'special relationship' goes back to the events of 6th June 1944 and the Normandy Landings, when both countries played a significant part and role together to help free Europe.
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Re: Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationshi
After all, the political leaders of both the US and UK have continually said over the past 40 years that how special, close, lovable and indeed adorable each other and both countries are to each other. This 'special relationship' goes back to the events of 6th June 1944 and the Normandy Landings, when both countries played a significant part and role together to help free Europe.
So, why don't both effectively put their money where their mouth is, act it out in practice and implement quid pro concessions that any British Citizen can just pop over and legally take any type of job living and working in New York or Los Angeles, and the same for any American who wishes to experience savouring the charm of the old world and living and working in London or Birmingham etc.
After all, the politicians constantly harp on about our close and shared democratic values, a similar culture and the same language.
Could this realistically work in practice, especially post Brexit by trading the 27 EU member states for the 50 US States instead?
The Americans could also use their chance to live and work in the UK to see Dublin, Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam and Cologne on the weekends.
So, why don't both effectively put their money where their mouth is, act it out in practice and implement quid pro concessions that any British Citizen can just pop over and legally take any type of job living and working in New York or Los Angeles, and the same for any American who wishes to experience savouring the charm of the old world and living and working in London or Birmingham etc.
After all, the politicians constantly harp on about our close and shared democratic values, a similar culture and the same language.
Could this realistically work in practice, especially post Brexit by trading the 27 EU member states for the 50 US States instead?
The Americans could also use their chance to live and work in the UK to see Dublin, Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam and Cologne on the weekends.
BTW there is no special relationship between the US and UK.
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Re: Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationshi
The British politician talk of special relationship, noboday in the US believe in the special relationship.
From your posts it appears you have obsession with USA,
I had opportunity to live in the US and I chose Canada. I have traveled extensively (business/private) in the US and I enjoy those trips, but I am always happy to return to Canada.
From your posts it appears you have obsession with USA,
I had opportunity to live in the US and I chose Canada. I have traveled extensively (business/private) in the US and I enjoy those trips, but I am always happy to return to Canada.
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Re: Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationshi
Even in an alternative universe if such a thing was proposed, it would likely be decided against, because it would be patiently unfair. Why? Because the population of the USA is 5 or 6 times that of the UK.
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If anything it would be detrimental for the UK!
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I hate to have to be the one to break it to you, but - words are cheap and politicians tell lies all the time ...
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Re: Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationshi
British citizens (with the exception of those born in Northern Ireland) are not even allowed to enter the Green Card lottery.
Apparently there are already enough/too many American citizens whose ancestry is derived from Great Britain and mainland Europe.
A few decades ago there were severe limits on most Europeans being eligible to apply and for US immigration to be more diverse and favourite GC lottery applicants to be from other countries, say in Asia, Australasia etc.
AFAIK Brits born in Northern Ireland can enter the GC lottery because one of the Kennedy's (I think it was Edward Kennedy) influenced the decision as he considered Brits born there to be 'Irish').
Apparently there are already enough/too many American citizens whose ancestry is derived from Great Britain and mainland Europe.
A few decades ago there were severe limits on most Europeans being eligible to apply and for US immigration to be more diverse and favourite GC lottery applicants to be from other countries, say in Asia, Australasia etc.
AFAIK Brits born in Northern Ireland can enter the GC lottery because one of the Kennedy's (I think it was Edward Kennedy) influenced the decision as he considered Brits born there to be 'Irish').
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I disagree with the others, I think there is a "special relationship" between the US and UK, in politics, economics, and in military cooperation where for 40 years (and arguably longer) the UK has been an ally of the US and the lead and sometimes the only ally in military adventures, but it won't extend to green cards because the US doesn't want 15%-20% of the population of the UK decamping to the US.
That said, I do foresee a US-UK trade agreement containing an agreement for an "E-4", similar to the E-3 for Australians.
That said, I do foresee a US-UK trade agreement containing an agreement for an "E-4", similar to the E-3 for Australians.
Last edited by Pulaski; Jul 1st 2017 at 7:12 pm.
#13
Re: Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationshi
I disagree with the others, I think there is a "special relationship" between the US and UK, in politics, economics, and in military cooperation where for 40 years (and arguably longer) the UK has been an ally of the US and the lead and sometimes the only ally in military adventures, but it won't extend to green cards because the US doesn't want 15%-20% of the population of the UK decamping to the US.
That said, I do foresee a US-UK trade agreement containing an agreement for an "E-4", similar to the E-3 for Australians.
That said, I do foresee a US-UK trade agreement containing an agreement for an "E-4", similar to the E-3 for Australians.
PS did you see what I just did?
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Re: Should British Citizens get Green Card concessions due to the special relationshi
Now you are just being trollish.