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Old Jun 8th 2003, 8:20 pm
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Hi,
I just wonder, when it´s time to move "over
there" I would of course like to have som of my
personal belongings with me. I will move from Sweden
to California (if everything goes thru) and having a
hard tim to find a cheap alternative for shipping.

I heard about shipping boxes by boat
Is there anyone out there whon knows what could
be a good cheap alternative? It´s definetly not a lot of
stuff but and for things I don´t need it right away.

As always I happy for all replies

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Old Jun 9th 2003, 12:28 am
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As far as I know, the cheapest way of shipping goods is to get a removal firm to ship your container as part of a larger consignment. This takes longer because the shippers have to wait to make up a full container of which yours would be a part. Speak to removal firms.
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Old Jun 9th 2003, 10:45 pm
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It depends what sort of belongings you're wishing to bring. If you mean books, CDs etc rather than furniture, then the cheapest and quickest way may be to take an extra, very large suitcase or two and pay for the extra baggage. Some airlines will even accept two checked pieces of luggage as routine. At least then the stuff arrives at the same time you do! Phone around the airlines and see what their allowances are, what they charge for extra weight etc, before you decide who to book with.
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Old Jun 10th 2003, 1:38 am
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Daniel,

I agree with MrsLondon. I work for a freight forwarder and have
professional experience in moving personal effects. If you only have a few
boxes, it might be worth your while just to bring a couple of extra
suitcases with you on the plane rather than paying for export fees,
shipping, and import fees upon arrival.

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    > Hi,
    > I just wonder, when it´s time to move "over
    > there" I would of course like to have som of my
    > personal belongings with me. I will move from Sweden
    > to California (if everything goes thru) and having a
    > hard tim to find a cheap alternative for shipping.
    > I heard about shipping boxes by boat
    > Is there anyone out there whon knows what could
    > be a good cheap alternative? It´s definetly not a lot of
    > stuff but and for things I don´t need it right away.
    > As always I happy for all replies
    > Daniel
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Old Jun 10th 2003, 2:02 pm
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Originally posted by MrsLondon
It depends what sort of belongings you're wishing to bring. If you mean books, CDs etc rather than furniture, then the cheapest and quickest way may be to take an extra, very large suitcase or two and pay for the extra baggage. Some airlines will even accept two checked pieces of luggage as routine. At least then the stuff arrives at the same time you do! Phone around the airlines and see what their allowances are, what they charge for extra weight etc, before you decide who to book with.
Most accept 3 on international flights I think.
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Originally posted by kariml
Most accept 3 on international flights I think.
usually most accept 2 plus cabin package (which cannot be very large). the weight limitation is usually 70 pounds each for check in and 20 pounds for cabin luggage. bringing an extra suitcase to the airport might not be a cheap alternative - you should definately ask about the rates in advance. with some airlines it can easily cost a fortune to bring 3 instead of 2 suitcases. also sometimes it is possible to change a check in luggage to a over size (but not too heavy) package (e.g. a bike). but this has to be arranged a few days before the flight and you might need to check it in already 3 hours before take off.
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Originally posted by Duckie
usually most accept 2 plus cabin package (which cannot be very large). the weight limitation is usually 70 pounds each for check in and 20 pounds for cabin luggage. bringing an extra suitcase to the airport might not be a cheap alternative - you should definately ask about the rates in advance. with some airlines it can easily cost a fortune to bring 3 instead of 2 suitcases. also sometimes it is possible to change a check in luggage to a over size (but not too heavy) package (e.g. a bike). but this has to be arranged a few days before the flight and you might need to check it in already 3 hours before take off.
I guess it depends on the airline, I know for sure Delta allows 3 pieces of checked luggage on international flights, but I'm not sure of the others.
You're right, it might not be cheaper if the suitcase is over 70 lbs (75 for int'l on Delta).

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Old Jun 10th 2003, 5:50 pm
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For all the thoughts and ideas in this matter.
Maybe it´s better to go by Swedish mail.
I found a box I can buy and stuff about 10Kg (22 Pounds)
for 40USD. It´s not to bad.

When I think about the circumstances it´s a minor problem.
It´s a good thing that it´s theese kinds of things I
now worry about.

the best to you all
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Originally posted by Beth
Daniel,

I agree with MrsLondon. I work for a freight forwarder and have
professional experience in moving personal effects. If you only have a few
boxes, it might be worth your while just to bring a couple of extra
suitcases with you on the plane rather than paying for export fees,
shipping, and import fees upon arrival.

Beth
Beth, would you be willing to share a few pointers for us on the NG about finding and hiring a freight forwarder (as opposed to a removal or moving company)? We are exploring this idea for bringing some things from Greece and find a bit of trouble with the airlines as we face European baggage allowances (light!) before catching our trans Atlantic flights to the US with their more generous allowances. Additionally, we have one large painting there that can not be broken down/rolled up and are puzzling the best way to ship it.

A freight expediter that I work with in the US on another project has told me that dimensions are more important than weight. I would love to get any leads from you on where we should start & think others here with multi-country hops would appreciate the info too.

Thanks!
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Old Jun 10th 2003, 7:41 pm
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this is all interesting helpful stuff...

when my daughter and i descend on my fiance we will be shipping almost the
whole of a two bedroomed house to Oregon USA... we figure that its better to
have too much than not enough... and he is living in a one bedroomed
apartment at the moment and we think shipping everything across to him is a
good idea.. and in the long run less expensive than us having to go out and
completely furnish a large house...

having already shipped my father off to Cyprus a few years ago i know how
time consuming and stressy packing a whole house up can be... is it worth
employing packers from the removal company.. in particular we have a few
paintings and a large mirror all of which are family heirlooms which we dont
want damaged...

any suggestions for companies used would be appreciated...

Bee

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    > Daniel,
    > I agree with MrsLondon. I work for a freight forwarder and have
    > professional experience in moving personal effects. If you only have a
few
    > boxes, it might be worth your while just to bring a couple of extra
    > suitcases with you on the plane rather than paying for export fees,
    > shipping, and import fees upon arrival.
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Originally posted by Bee
this is all interesting helpful stuff...

when my daughter and i descend on my fiance we will be shipping almost the
whole of a two bedroomed house to Oregon USA...
hey Bee, Greets from the Oregon Coast. Too bad we can't share a container, as that's the destination of our Greek stuff (via London).
Let me know if I can point you to any Oregon resources.
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Old Jun 11th 2003, 6:53 am
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hey meaxna...

thank you for the reply... i will most definately take you up on that
offer...

to hear that someone else is voluntarily going to the dampness of Oregon
makes me smile...

i'm not the only lunatic out here...

Bee

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    > Originally posted by Bee
    > > this is all interesting helpful stuff...
    > >
    > > when my daughter and i descend on my fiance we will be shipping
    > > almost the
    > > whole of a two bedroomed house to Oregon USA...
    > hey Bee, Greets from the Oregon Coast. Too bad we can't share a
    > container, as that's the destination of our Greek stuff (via London).
    > Let me know if I can point you to any Oregon resources.
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Old Jun 12th 2003, 4:52 am
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The most important point to stress is get insurance. Without a doubt, we
will have it when we move my fiance's things from Ireland.

With a few boxes it may just be easier to bring them with you as excess
baggage. My father has moved his things several times with steamer trunks
and payed for the extra baggage fees on the plane. I had suggested this to
my fiance, Ger, but he has too much to bring across.

If you think about shipping your belongings in a logistical sense, you are
going to have charges for every step of the way. To have it picked up,
packed, brought to the air/ocean port, loaded on the vessel, the actual
freight charges, arrival charges, unloading, customs clearance, & delivery.

With air freight, the dimensions can be very much more important than the
weight. We have industry standard calculations to determine if the volume
weight of your shipment is larger than the actual weight. Meaning if your
piece takes up more room than it should, they will charge you based on the
volume. With a painting, you will want to have a crate built for it when
shipping, otherwise I can almost guarantee it will get damaged.

If you're moving a whole house full of things in a container on a vessel,
you will definitely want a professional to pack it. Anything that can move
around inside the container will do so once the vessel gets out on the open
water.

There are loads of freight forwarders all over Europe. I've been looking
for a web-page with a list of them but am not having any luck. A few of the
biggers companies are DFDS Transport, Expeditor's International, Danzas,
Kuehne & Nagel, Rohlig, Cargo Partner, etc. Each has their own web-page.

Like anything that is expensive, get a few quotes and make sure they include
a detailed list of everything you are being charged for. Ask if they
consolidate to a port in the US, and if it would be less expensive than
shipping direct. Again with anything that is expensive, remember that the
one who has the lowest cost might not always provide the best service.

Good luck!
Beth


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    > Originally posted by Beth
    > > Daniel,
    > >
    > > I agree with MrsLondon. I work for a freight forwarder and have
    > > professional experience in moving personal effects. If you only
    > > have a few
    > > boxes, it might be worth your while just to bring a couple of extra
    > > suitcases with you on the plane rather than paying for export fees,
    > > shipping, and import fees upon arrival.
    > >
    > > Beth
    > Beth, would you be willing to share a few pointers for us on the NG
    > about finding and hiring a freight forwarder (as opposed to a removal or
    > moving company)? We are exploring this idea for bringing some things
    > from Greece and find a bit of trouble with the airlines as we face
    > European baggage allowances (light!) before catching our trans Atlantic
    > flights to the US with their more generous allowances. Additionally, we
    > have one large painting there that can not be broken down/rolled up and
    > are puzzling the best way to ship it.
    > A freight expediter that I work with in the US on another project has
    > told me that dimensions are more important than weight. I would love to
    > get any leads from you on where we should start & think others here with
    > multi-country hops would appreciate the info too.
    > Thanks!
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Jun 12th 2003, 1:35 pm
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I reckon I will have about 1000lbs of stuff I want to get over to US. I have been busily packing boxes with the plan to put them on 2 or 3 pallets. I contacted Bax Global to make sure they will take pallets of household goods and they confirmed they will. My main concern was that if I put all on pallets, I don't have a fork lift to get it onto the back of their truck, but they said that I can bring the gear down to their depot and they will palletize and shrink wrap for me. I will have in the region of 20 boxes and they did confirm they will likely base it on cubic meters as opposed to weight (by ocean). When I have finished and have a better idea of the quantity (weight and volume) I may then send by ocean or air (as air may apparently be more economical in some instances).

To give you all an idea of what I was quoted based on a port to port quote (ie, I drop the gear to them and they deliver to Chicago for instance). Euro 310 per 1000kg or 2.5 cubic meters, plus Euro 31 handling charge per 3 cubic meters, plus Euro55 BOL (one off), plus 25 security (one off), then there is $125 customs clearance in US.
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