Schools are not allowed to ask for immigration status
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I asked partly because it came up in another thread (a family who were considering staying on B-2 visas), but it was mostly out of general interest and curiousity. Yes we are legit but I would rather not be asked if they're not supposed to!
Michael - thanks for your concern but around here everyone gets a place in the local school. They haven't even had their school tours etc so doesn't seem to be any rush.
Michael - thanks for your concern but around here everyone gets a place in the local school. They haven't even had their school tours etc so doesn't seem to be any rush.
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I believe you and I've heard it's like that in NYC too. But around here it's definitely not like that. I would have heard about it from the other preschool moms gossiping! Anyway my daughter will hopefully be in the gifted program as she can already read books and has always been a quick learner, we are having her tested in a few weeks, that's why we haven't registered yet.
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I believe you and I've heard it's like that in NYC too. But around here it's definitely not like that. I would have heard about it from the other preschool moms gossiping! Anyway my daughter will hopefully be in the gifted program as she can already read books and has always been a quick learner, we are having her tested in a few weeks, that's why we haven't registered yet.
When a school is full, they can't assign more children to that school and people with children flock to that area of Fremont if they can afford housing in that area.
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The question is a spin off from the wording of B2 visas, which reportedly state, or imply, that you can't attend school on that class of visa. This is clearly in conflict with the federal requirement for children to be engaged in full time education until age 16. Hence the question as to whether it is possible for children to be in the country legally but not admissible to the public education system, and whether there is any sort of gatekeeper process that would even identify non-citizens on supposedly non-conforming visas, or not here legally?
IMO the requirement for children resident in the US to be engaged in full time education is absolute, and not curtailed by other laws, and the SCOTUS ruled, in 1982 if I remember correctly, that even children not in the country legally must be admitted to the public education system.
IMO the requirement for children resident in the US to be engaged in full time education is absolute, and not curtailed by other laws, and the SCOTUS ruled, in 1982 if I remember correctly, that even children not in the country legally must be admitted to the public education system.
Register your children for next year as soon as registration is possible. In my last place, a new owner purchased my home 6 months before they were moving in because they wanted to register their children in the school district as soon as possible after registration started. Since the schools I my area map are ranked 10 out of 10 and can only handle a limited number of children, late registration can possibly cause a child to be placed in one of the other schools in the district with a lower ranking.
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No problem Geoff... I'm just like that, I don't want to be asked about my immigration status if they're not supposed to! Maybe because I feel bad for any undocumented kids who might be stopped from going to school if they did ask.
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Is that even possible, ie registering before moving in? Here - okay, so a sample of one - they ask for proof of residency which includes a utility bill in the name of at least one of the parents and the mortgage/closing statement or rental agreement (there are a couple of other options but they're the ones I can remember).
Some people have grandparents that live in that area and sometimes they beat the system claiming that the child lives with the grandparents but in reality the parent takes the child to school daily from his/her home. That area of Fremont is extremely strict about checking residency in the area. In cases like this, they may possibly make surprise visits to make sure the child is living with the grandparents.
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I do not see the issue in providing free schooling for residents and also checking their eligibility.
There is amazing hypocracy in this area, the Dems here made a big issue about not needing to provide ID to vote, but you needed ID to attend their events....
There is amazing hypocracy in this area, the Dems here made a big issue about not needing to provide ID to vote, but you needed ID to attend their events....
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It's the highest rated elementary in our district, and has a fair number of out of boundary kids attending through parental choice. Each year, these parents have to complete an out-of-boundary application form, so I imagine that if the numbers for a particular grade suddenly went up with local kids, the outsiders would be the ones bumped, not the ones residing in the 'right' addresses.
I'd already checked the policy, and then just worked the system by renting in exactly the right square mile block to enable us to waltz in with our new kids, and get them straight into classrooms.
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Rainbows and flowers haha, sounds brilliant!
Similar here except you can not go to a school if you don't live in the catchment area, apart from if you qualify for the gifted program. (However, the gifted school is our local school anyway so will still be the same school for us whether she qualifies or not.)
Similar here except you can not go to a school if you don't live in the catchment area, apart from if you qualify for the gifted program. (However, the gifted school is our local school anyway so will still be the same school for us whether she qualifies or not.)
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I was never asked about our status in the US with any of my three starting Kindergarten, I didn't even put Social security numbers down as I forgot to bring them, and no one gave a hoot.
Registration is already in full swing in our district, you should apply asap, you can always turn down the place if you decide to go elsewhere.
Dd was already reading when she entered K, she was reading at the end of first grade level when they tested her a month into school, but socially she still needed to be with her own age group and hasn't been moved. She was in a combo 1/2grade class for half a year last year and this year they have no combo classes so it's a straight 2nd grade.
We're moving back to UK this year, and so far she is up to par with reading and writing with her UK friend who goes to a small school, hopefully she'll slot right in.
Registration is already in full swing in our district, you should apply asap, you can always turn down the place if you decide to go elsewhere.
Dd was already reading when she entered K, she was reading at the end of first grade level when they tested her a month into school, but socially she still needed to be with her own age group and hasn't been moved. She was in a combo 1/2grade class for half a year last year and this year they have no combo classes so it's a straight 2nd grade.
We're moving back to UK this year, and so far she is up to par with reading and writing with her UK friend who goes to a small school, hopefully she'll slot right in.
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That's great that she's keeping up with the UK!
I can't believe no one here has been talking about registration, normally that's the sort of thing the other moms at preschool would talk about. I just found out today that the open house is 1st May. My daughter's "gifted" testing is early April and I didn't want to register her before but I suppose I still could as it will be the same school either way! Maybe I will.
I can't believe no one here has been talking about registration, normally that's the sort of thing the other moms at preschool would talk about. I just found out today that the open house is 1st May. My daughter's "gifted" testing is early April and I didn't want to register her before but I suppose I still could as it will be the same school either way! Maybe I will.
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I think we showed visas/passports when I registered my kids at school in Indiana but I don't think I did here in SC. It was only a year ago so you'd think I'd remember!
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I've never been asked about immigration status for either of my kids and they've both been through from K-12 and we've changed school district a couple of times.
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Anyway, it looks like it's illegal:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...ration-status/
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Worse that that, the inevitable result of checking immigration status (not that school districts are qualified to do this anyway) is that you'll get parents withholding their kids from school if they think there's the slightest thing questionable about their status.
Anyway, it looks like it's illegal:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...ration-status/
Anyway, it looks like it's illegal:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...ration-status/
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