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britvic Sep 25th 2007 5:31 pm

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Originally Posted by BritGuyTN (Post 5353046)
actually, you're right

I think I was drunk after watching MNF, I might offer a 50% match of funds to buy a car...

Yeah I'm all for that, to help them out a little but not the full f**king brand spanking new car which is top bollox.

BritGuyTN Sep 25th 2007 5:35 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by britvic (Post 5353303)
Yeah I'm all for that, to help them out a little but not the full f**king brand spanking new car which is top bollox.

i think a 5/6 year old jetta is a good option

TruBrit Sep 25th 2007 5:38 pm

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Originally Posted by britvic (Post 5353303)
Yeah I'm all for that, to help them out a little but not the full f**king brand spanking new car which is top bollox.

i helped my son buy his first car and it did not have all the bells and whistles, far from it. it was an 18mth old 2 door black fiat uno with just under 1000 cc .... he needed wheels to get to his first job. i would not even if i could have afforded it at the time bought him anything bigger or better. the car was good on insurance (which he paid mthly).... i started it in his own name to build up his no claims.

britvic Sep 25th 2007 5:39 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by BritGuyTN (Post 5353322)
i think a 5/6 year old jetta is a good option

Yes it is and if they want better then they should bloody well get out there and earn it :) yes I'm hard, but I will not pay for my grown children till my dieing day.

Jerseygirl Sep 25th 2007 5:46 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by BritGuyTN (Post 5353322)
i think a 5/6 year old jetta is a good option

We will have a 3 yr old one for sale in a few weeks...

TruBrit Sep 25th 2007 5:51 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by britvic (Post 5353334)
Yes it is and if they want better then they should bloody well get out there and earn it :) yes I'm hard, but I will not pay for my grown children till my dieing day.

exactly, get a job or two and buy their own if they want bigger and better imo.

Jerseygirl Sep 25th 2007 6:00 pm

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Originally Posted by TruBrit (Post 5353369)
exactly, get a job or two and buy their own if they want bigger and better imo.

Not always possible...my daughter is still at uni and cannot work in Canada. She has a 1,000 mile drive round trip home and back...in all weather therefore she needs something safe and reliable. She has never asked for anything bigger and better...if she did she certainly wouldn't get it.

TruBrit Sep 25th 2007 6:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 5353401)
She has never asked for anything bigger and better...if she did she certainly wouldn't get it.

i don't know what she drives so can't comment and anyway that's your business.

but for sure that's the way to do it imo...make them earn it to make them appreciate it.

another bloody yank Sep 25th 2007 6:15 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 5353401)
Not always possible...my daughter is still at uni and cannot work in Canada. She has a 1,000 mile drive round trip home and back...in all weather therefore she needs something safe and reliable. She has never asked for anything bigger and better...if she did she certainly wouldn't get it.

You should have given her your old "bus"!:lol:

jumping doris Sep 25th 2007 6:24 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 5353401)
Not always possible...my daughter is still at uni and cannot work in Canada. She has a 1,000 mile drive round trip home and back...in all weather therefore she needs something safe and reliable. She has never asked for anything bigger and better...if she did she certainly wouldn't get it.

We went to visit my daughter at uni last weekend and she started mentioning cars. She hasn't even passed her test yet.
At our local test centre they only do one test route and everyone obviously knows where it is. It's very easy and all the teens practise a few times and pass. Then they start driving around in their parents massive SUV's and they have accidents.
It is really scary.
Three of my middle daughters friends were involved in a head on collision on friday night. Thankfully they were all OK, a few bruises etc. It made me go cold.
We have no public transport at all so all the teens get their licence at 16.
Luckily we live in a really low crime area with a police force that is massively over manned and equipped and so they have nothing to do but hand out speeding tickets. The fact that they are always lurking does slow the teens down

Jerseygirl Sep 25th 2007 6:28 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by TruBrit (Post 5353424)
i don't know what she drives so can't comment and anyway that's your business.

but for sure that's the way to do it imo...make them earn it to make them appreciate it.

Actually when my daughter got her car she gave us all the money she'd saved which was around $5K towards the cost of it. It was her suggestion not ours. We took the money and invested it for her...although she doesn't know it. That was every last penny of her savings and because she's an international student she's not been able to earn/save any money since.

anotherlimey Sep 25th 2007 6:36 pm

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Originally Posted by britvic (Post 5353291)
Oh for gawds sake, it's the old mans and no one else's, talk about gime gime it's my right because your my parent :rolleyes:

I have plenty more where that came from!

The guy's sister works as a sales assistant in a dept. store, she drives an Infinity coupe paid for by the grandparents!

It's not my money anyway, but I feel sorry for the grandparents because they are always guilt tripped into buying stuff for their grandchildren and they're still out at work and edging 75!

britvic Sep 25th 2007 6:39 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey (Post 5353562)
I have plenty more where that came from!

The guy's sister works as a sales assistant in a dept. store, she drives an Infinity coupe paid for by the grandparents!

It's not my money anyway, but I feel sorry for the grandparents because they are always guilt tripped into buying stuff for their grandchildren and they're still out at work and edging 75!

Thats just really sad.

krizzy Sep 25th 2007 8:35 pm

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Originally Posted by anotherlimey (Post 5353562)
I have plenty more where that came from!

The guy's sister works as a sales assistant in a dept. store, she drives an Infinity coupe paid for by the grandparents!

It's not my money anyway, but I feel sorry for the grandparents because they are always guilt tripped into buying stuff for their grandchildren and they're still out at work and edging 75!

My MIL and her sister are still working Aunty is 72 and washes up in Tesco's...MIL has a son still at home but he just drains the household income....he got his first job a few years ago picking peppers...I don't think he's paid a bill in his life and he is 43...

TruBrit Sep 25th 2007 8:38 pm

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Originally Posted by krizzy (Post 5354208)
My MIL and her sister are still working Aunty is 72 and washes up in Tesco's...MIL has a son still at home but he just drains the household income....he got his first job a few years ago picking peppers...I don't think he's paid a bill in his life and he is 43...

and who's fault is that....i can't understand some folks, i really can't unless of course the son is handicapped?

Ray Sep 25th 2007 8:47 pm

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I have the opposite my Mum has control of my UK bank account ..
I always said if you need money urgently just take it ..

Urgently apparently means another pair of shoes ..
to add to the collection...

BritGuyTN Sep 25th 2007 8:49 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 5353355)
We will have a 3 yr old one for sale in a few weeks...

can you wait about 20 years? :-)

Jerseygirl Sep 25th 2007 8:49 pm

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Originally Posted by TruBrit (Post 5354228)
and who's fault is that....i can't understand some folks, i really can't unless of course the son is handicapped?

Me neither but then it suits some parents to control their adult children.

krizzy Sep 25th 2007 8:51 pm

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Originally Posted by TruBrit (Post 5354228)
and who's fault is that....i can't understand some folks, i really can't unless of course the son is handicapped?

Well you could say he is handicapped...he does have bones in his legs...as my nan used to say...:blink:

Thing is they think its fine for him to lazy about for years....but it seems I should of worked full time with two young kids and a near enough broken neck...:blink:

snowbunny Sep 25th 2007 8:57 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by BritGuyTN (Post 5353046)

I think I was drunk after watching MNF, I might offer a 50% match of funds to buy a car...

No new car, but if my daughter is as now taking a very heavy load of coursework then I won't make her work. If I'd not had to work during high school and uni I would have been a lot less stressed. If she keeps her grades decent and the load up, then I'm willing to help out. My #1 concern is safety though and I will not allow her to get anything not rated safely.

If her father buys her something stupid and splash I will NOT be pleased. I hope he remembers he was given an old beater station wagon (estate wagon?) when he was in high school/uni and while it was a beater, it was popular because he could take many kids at once. My inclination is opposite though: not something that can carry loads of kids because the accident risk goes up the more passengers you have (especially boys -- there have been studies done). So hell, maybe she'll get a Smart Car. :)

TruBrit Sep 25th 2007 8:59 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by krizzy (Post 5354297)
Well you could say he is handicapped...he does have bones in his legs...as my nan used to say...:blink:

Thing is they think its fine for him to lazy about for years....but it seems I should of worked full time with two young kids and a near enough broken neck...:blink:

good old nan ;)

BritGuyTN Sep 26th 2007 2:40 am

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 5354290)
Me neither but then it suits some parents to control their adult children.

i think thats the case with my inlaws - my brother in law is a drug addict in recovery (oxycontin) but his mum likes to feel needed, he's 26 and has not held down a job for more than 6 months. I think she would rather he is at her tit as he has been the whole of his life (when he lived in his own place where rent was $200 a month, he would actually call her and get her to go to macdonalds to buy him a burger, despite him having transportation - lazy ****)

he is now looking after his girlfriend's kid and acting as the father (hes obviously not since the kid is mixed). he is deluding himself thinking he is providing for the 5 year old but doesn't pay for food or contribute anything financially to the household. I guess his parents paying for everything is providing in his mind

BritGuyTN Sep 26th 2007 2:49 am

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by jumping doris (Post 5353498)
Luckily we live in a really low crime area with a police force that is massively over manned and equipped and so they have nothing to do but hand out speeding tickets. The fact that they are always lurking does slow the teens down

This is a very good thing IMO. when friends of our start saying in a negative way that the east nashville police are really cracking down on drink driving, I always say, yes, thats great - drink driving is completely avoidable, a DUI is not something you get with bad luck, its by making a bad decision to break the law and endanger your life and others. get a ****ing cab you irresponsible losers

People here are like 'oooh, theres DUI roadblocks' FFS don;t drink and drive and you have nothing to worry about....

a best friend of my wife's in knoxville told her that her husband has spent the last 2 months in jail for his

4th DUI

while

being on probabtion for a previous DUI

while

driving on a suspended license because of a previous DUI

COCK. he should be in jail for 11/29 for a 4th offence, he must have a good attorney. The have 1 kid aged 4 and 1 kid aged 18 months. Irresponsible **** also.

I'm feeling pretty judgemental this evening if you couldn;t tell already.

britvic Sep 26th 2007 2:56 am

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by BritGuyTN (Post 5355062)
This is a very good thing IMO. when friends of our start saying in a negative way that the east nashville police are really cracking down on drink driving, I always say, yes, thats great - drink driving is completely avoidable, a DUI is not something you get with bad luck, its by making a bad decision to break the law and endanger your life and others. get a ****ing cab you irresponsible losers

People here are like 'oooh, theres DUI roadblocks' FFS don;t drink and drive and you have nothing to worry about....

a best friend of my wife's in knoxville told her that her husband has spent the last 2 months in jail for his

4th DUI

while

being on probabtion for a previous DUI

while

driving on a suspended license because of a previous DUI

COCK. he should be in jail for 11/29 for a 4th offence, he must have a good attorney. The have 1 kid aged 4 and 1 kid aged 18 months. Irresponsible **** also.

I'm feeling pretty judgemental this evening if you couldn;t tell already.

No not at all, throw the book at them is what I say.

BritGuyTN Sep 26th 2007 2:58 am

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by krizzy (Post 5354297)
Thing is they think its fine for him to lazy about for years....but it seems I should of worked full time with two young kids and a near enough broken neck...:blink:

The funny thing is my in laws dote on my loser brother in law but give my wife very little credit. He was expelled from 5 high schools but she excelled athletically and academically. They saw no need to put any money towards hher college education so she worked her ass off and got a full ride (full academic scholarship) to a state Uni and worked her way through it to pay for rent and food. I think she has a total of $1800 of a student loan left (still under 30)

She then put herself through law school with no help and left with $0 debt. Actually she did get a $1000 tuition scholarship and her parents gave her a car with 255000 miles on the clock. This is why I am very harsh towards people not taking responsibility and making the effort to make things happen.


Originally Posted by snowbunny (Post 5354318)
No new car, but if my daughter is as now taking a very heavy load of coursework then I won't make her work.

Unless my kid is in med school or Ivy league I would expect them to work, as above, my wife did law school whilst working a full time job and the first couple of years were not exactly strenuous.

another bloody yank Sep 26th 2007 12:04 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by snowbunny (Post 5354318)
My #1 concern is safety though and I will not allow her to get anything not rated safely.


Originally Posted by snowbunny (Post 5354318)
So hell, maybe she'll get a Smart Car. :)

Are those considered "safe"? They're so damn tiny!:eek: The first "car" my wife drove regularly was my FIL's '78 Chevy pickup, after that he bought a '68 Chevy Biscayne 4 door for her to drive (Without power steering!:lol:). By that I mean it was hers to drive while she was in college, after graduation the car went back into the family motorpool (six kids) and she was on her own. She ended up buying (from her Dad and yes, she payed him) a 1976 Buick Electra 225 4 door. It was an enormous car and I loved it! It had a 455cu inch (7.5 liter) engine and was like driving down the highway in your living room.:p

jumping doris Sep 26th 2007 12:43 pm

Re: Scary Death Stats
 

Originally Posted by BritGuyTN (Post 5355062)
This is a very good thing IMO. when friends of our start saying in a negative way that the east nashville police are really cracking down on drink driving, I always say, yes, thats great - drink driving is completely avoidable, a DUI is not something you get with bad luck, its by making a bad decision to break the law and endanger your life and others. get a ****ing cab you irresponsible losers

People here are like 'oooh, theres DUI roadblocks' FFS don;t drink and drive and you have nothing to worry about....

a best friend of my wife's in knoxville told her that her husband has spent the last 2 months in jail for his

4th DUI

while

being on probabtion for a previous DUI

while

driving on a suspended license because of a previous DUI

COCK. he should be in jail for 11/29 for a 4th offence, he must have a good attorney. The have 1 kid aged 4 and 1 kid aged 18 months. Irresponsible **** also.

I'm feeling pretty judgemental this evening if you couldn;t tell already.

Actually I approve of the police crackdowns on speeding etc. It came across wrong because at the moment my little group of dog walking friends is being harrassed by the police.
We walk in a wooded, meadow area and dogs are allowed, off leash once you pass a particular point. None of us ever break that rule and we all pick up after our dogs. The township want to ban dogs from this place...no-one else uses it.....and so the police are there nearly everyday watching, driving after us down the trails, checking our licence plates, asking us to show we have something to pick up poop with...it's pathetic.

TruBrit Sep 26th 2007 1:00 pm

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Originally Posted by jumping doris (Post 5356584)
Actually I approve of the police crackdowns on speeding etc. It came across wrong because at the moment my little group of dog walking friends is being harrassed by the police.
We walk in a wooded, meadow area and dogs are allowed, off leash once you pass a particular point. None of us ever break that rule and we all pick up after our dogs. The township want to ban dogs from this place...no-one else uses it.....and so the police are there nearly everyday watching, driving after us down the trails, checking our licence plates, asking us to show we have something to pick up poop with...it's pathetic.

...what a waste of manpower :rolleyes:

NC Penguin Sep 27th 2007 1:28 am

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Originally Posted by Sally (Post 5350463)
I must say it's terribly sad and frightening about the teen car accidents, almost everyone seems to know a person from their school who died in one. The driving test should be a lot stricter here.

I think it's more about the driver, whether they are intoxicated (drugs, alcohol or a combination) and with friends can contribute to teen car accidents.


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