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Old Jun 8th 2011, 12:05 am
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Is a Perminant Resident granted the same protections under the Bill of Rights as a US citizen?

And before you ask, no I'm not planning on breaking the law, just curious lol!!
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Old Jun 8th 2011, 12:35 am
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I thought they were rights of land, as in who's here in the US gets the same protections...with possibly the exception of being armed to the teeth depending on the state you're in
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Simple answer - no - because the Bill of Rights is a specified check on federal governmental power and not a laundry list of what US citizens can and cannot do.
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Old Jun 8th 2011, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by Herpes Simplex View Post
Simple answer - no - because the Bill of Rights is a specified check on federal governmental power and not a laundry list of what US citizens can and cannot do.
I understand that. What I'm asking is does it cover everyone who is within the US or just citizens?
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Some bits specifically cover citizens and other bits cover "peoples".

Here's one run-down but I think it's a bit dated now

http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/pvcright.htm
http://freedom-school.com/citizenshi...en-rights.html
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Old Jun 8th 2011, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by spiraluk View Post
Is a Perminant Resident granted the same protections under the Bill of Rights as a US citizen?

And before you ask, no I'm not planning on breaking the law, just curious lol!!
Not just the bill of rights but more importantly the Constitution.

Yes, you will be given the same rights without the right to vote, of course.

Even illegal immigrants get those rights. So your green card means nothing in that regard.
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Old Jun 8th 2011, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by spiraluk View Post
Is a Perminant Resident granted the same protections under the Bill of Rights as a US citizen?
All persons, without regard to their legal status, and within the borders of the US, are protected by the US Constitution and all 27 amendments... including the first 10.

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm View Post
All persons, without regard to their legal status, and within the borders of the US, are protected by the US Constitution and all 27 amendments... including the first 10.

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I disagree - a PR can't vote...

As far as I know a PR is afforded the rights of equal protection only. If the Federal Government chose to outlaw firearm ownership among PRs I don't see anyone standing up to argue against it.
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I disagree - a PR can't vote...
Bzzzt... non sequitur. I never said a PR has the same rights as a USC... I said that all persons are protected by the Constitution. Perhaps you meant to quote someone else.


If the Federal Government chose to outlaw firearm ownership among PRs I don't see anyone standing up to argue against it.
I'm pretty sure the NRA would have something to say about it... and they'd probably win.

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Originally Posted by ian-mstm View Post
Bzzzt... non sequitur. I never said a PR has the same rights as a USC... I said that all persons are protected by the Constitution. Perhaps you meant to quote someone else.
I thought you wrote something else...

Originally Posted by ian-mstm View Post
I'm pretty sure the NRA would have something to say about it... and they'd probably win.

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Everyone I say that to seems surprised a legal resident can even own firearms.
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Old Jun 13th 2011, 3:42 am
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Default Re: Rights as a Resident?

Yes, same here. When I tell the fam that I now own two firearms and a license to carry, they dont understand how its legal! Plus, they dont understand why I have them...but thats a whole different story.
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Originally Posted by ian-mstm View Post
I'm pretty sure the NRA would have something to say about it... and they'd probably win.

http://www.saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=281
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Default Re: Rights as a Resident?

Originally Posted by anotherlimey View Post
I disagree - a PR can't vote...

As far as I know a PR is afforded the rights of equal protection only. If the Federal Government chose to outlaw firearm ownership among PRs I don't see anyone standing up to argue against it.
i think the 14th amendment kicks in for PRL. so equal protection under the law, but you have to sign up for the draft if over 18 and under 30
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Old Jun 14th 2011, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Smee862 View Post
i think the 14th amendment kicks in for PRL. so equal protection under the law, but you have to sign up for the draft if over 18 and under 30

No that is 18 to 26 a male must register with the Selective Service.

As for voting, a PR can vote in some cities. They cannot vote in federal elections.
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Default Re: Rights as a Resident?

As a PR you have one right that USC living here don't have.
The right to be deported!!

Overall I see the advantage of being a PR ... I don't have to do Jury duty...
$11 a day here .. oh and it costs $7 a day to park.
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