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spiraluk Jun 8th 2011 12:05 am

Rights as a Resident?
 
Is a Perminant Resident granted the same protections under the Bill of Rights as a US citizen?

And before you ask, no I'm not planning on breaking the law, just curious lol!! :D

Bob Jun 8th 2011 12:35 am

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 
I thought they were rights of land, as in who's here in the US gets the same protections...with possibly the exception of being armed to the teeth depending on the state you're in :D

Captain Cheesestick Jun 8th 2011 2:09 am

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 
Simple answer - no - because the Bill of Rights is a specified check on federal governmental power and not a laundry list of what US citizens can and cannot do.

spiraluk Jun 8th 2011 8:07 am

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 

Originally Posted by Herpes Simplex (Post 9417982)
Simple answer - no - because the Bill of Rights is a specified check on federal governmental power and not a laundry list of what US citizens can and cannot do.

I understand that. What I'm asking is does it cover everyone who is within the US or just citizens?

penguinsix Jun 8th 2011 11:51 am

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 
Some bits specifically cover citizens and other bits cover "peoples".

Here's one run-down but I think it's a bit dated now

http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/pvcright.htm
http://freedom-school.com/citizenshi...en-rights.html

Rete Jun 8th 2011 12:22 pm

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 

Originally Posted by spiraluk (Post 9417814)
Is a Perminant Resident granted the same protections under the Bill of Rights as a US citizen?

And before you ask, no I'm not planning on breaking the law, just curious lol!! :D

Not just the bill of rights but more importantly the Constitution.

Yes, you will be given the same rights without the right to vote, of course.

Even illegal immigrants get those rights. So your green card means nothing in that regard.

ian-mstm Jun 8th 2011 1:58 pm

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 

Originally Posted by spiraluk (Post 9417814)
Is a Perminant Resident granted the same protections under the Bill of Rights as a US citizen?

All persons, without regard to their legal status, and within the borders of the US, are protected by the US Constitution and all 27 amendments... including the first 10.

Ian

anotherlimey Jun 8th 2011 2:08 pm

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 9419129)
All persons, without regard to their legal status, and within the borders of the US, are protected by the US Constitution and all 27 amendments... including the first 10.

Ian

I disagree - a PR can't vote...

As far as I know a PR is afforded the rights of equal protection only. If the Federal Government chose to outlaw firearm ownership among PRs I don't see anyone standing up to argue against it.

ian-mstm Jun 8th 2011 2:18 pm

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey (Post 9419153)
I disagree - a PR can't vote...

Bzzzt... non sequitur. I never said a PR has the same rights as a USC... I said that all persons are protected by the Constitution. Perhaps you meant to quote someone else.



If the Federal Government chose to outlaw firearm ownership among PRs I don't see anyone standing up to argue against it.
I'm pretty sure the NRA would have something to say about it... and they'd probably win.

Ian

anotherlimey Jun 8th 2011 2:30 pm

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 9419173)
Bzzzt... non sequitur. I never said a PR has the same rights as a USC... I said that all persons are protected by the Constitution. Perhaps you meant to quote someone else.

I thought you wrote something else...


Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 9419173)
I'm pretty sure the NRA would have something to say about it... and they'd probably win.

Ian

Everyone I say that to seems surprised a legal resident can even own firearms.

Shaolin_Dragon Jun 13th 2011 3:42 am

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 
Yes, same here. When I tell the fam that I now own two firearms and a license to carry, they dont understand how its legal! Plus, they dont understand why I have them...but thats a whole different story.

JAJ Jun 13th 2011 4:04 am

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 

Originally Posted by ian-mstm (Post 9419173)
I'm pretty sure the NRA would have something to say about it... and they'd probably win.


http://www.saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=281

Smee862 Jun 14th 2011 3:09 am

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey (Post 9419153)
I disagree - a PR can't vote...

As far as I know a PR is afforded the rights of equal protection only. If the Federal Government chose to outlaw firearm ownership among PRs I don't see anyone standing up to argue against it.

i think the 14th amendment kicks in for PRL. so equal protection under the law, but you have to sign up for the draft if over 18 and under 30

Rete Jun 14th 2011 12:25 pm

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 

Originally Posted by Smee862 (Post 9431070)
i think the 14th amendment kicks in for PRL. so equal protection under the law, but you have to sign up for the draft if over 18 and under 30


No that is 18 to 26 a male must register with the Selective Service.

As for voting, a PR can vote in some cities. They cannot vote in federal elections.

lyonsden1193 Jun 15th 2011 3:03 am

Re: Rights as a Resident?
 
As a PR you have one right that USC living here don't have.
The right to be deported!!

Overall I see the advantage of being a PR ... I don't have to do Jury duty...
$11 a day here .. oh and it costs $7 a day to park.


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