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Old Aug 31st 2016, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by Louise3
unfortunately they do not, that's why we call it the International Health Service. It's what will kill it in the end, but I digress!
So even though you said the above, you are perfectly prepared to do the same.

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Old Aug 31st 2016, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Louise3
I'm quite current thank you!
You are current on practice in the entire NHS? Certainly I know of cases where searching questions were asked about the eligibility of a patient, but I simply do not know how typical that is.
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Originally Posted by Louise3
It should do but no political party has the nerve to do it. ....
And your basis for that assertion is ..... ? Seems to me that it would be a very popular move, both increasing revenue and reducing the fraudulent use of NHS resources.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
And your basis for that assertion is ..... ? Seems to me that it would be a very popular move, both increasing revenue and reducing the fraudulent use of NHS resources.
Well just the inertia of the political parties who'd daren't touch the NHS because then they are seen as the bad guys, so many vocal pressure groups who would scream blue murder. But yes, popular with patients who are denied some treatment that is deemed too expensive.
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Well just the inertia of the political parties who'd daren't touch the NHS because then they are seen as the bad guys, so many vocal pressure groups who would scream blue murder. But yes, popular with patients who are denied some treatment that is deemed too expensive.
Denying treatment to people, who are entitled to use the NHS, because the treatment is deemed too expensive, is a totally different issue. Yes, that is a political landmine.

Denying treatment to those who are not entitled to use the NHS would, I think, be very popular with many.
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Originally Posted by MidAtlantic
Denying treatment to people, who are entitled to use the NHS, because the treatment is deemed too expensive, is a totally different issue. Yes, that is a political landmine.

Denying treatment to those who are not entitled to use the NHS would, I think, be very popular with many.
Very difficult to do, no national ID system.
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Old Aug 31st 2016, 2:04 pm
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what a strange thread, there's something odd about it but I can't put my finger on it. It started off about retiring to Florida then it just descended to inflammatory remarks about the NHS strange
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Old Aug 31st 2016, 2:09 pm
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what a strange thread, there's something odd about it but I can't put my finger on it. It started off about retiring to Florida then it just descended to inflammatory remarks about the NHS strange
Well if you can't quite afford to retire to America and are going to need to rely on healthcare you're not entitled to in another country, then maybe you shouldn't be moving...
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Elsewhere I see many people posting about bringing over parents who can not afford/ will never be able to work in a job with benefits.

Some areas have Medicaid availability from Day 1, some you have to wait 5 years.

Then there seem to be all sort of programs available, usually in high immigrant areas. Obviously millions upon millions who can not access conventional care. Pot luck maybe if you can get help when you need it.
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Originally Posted by Louise3
I work Anaesthetics and you won't believe the amount of internationals we deal with. We're not allowed to say anything.
Are you sure these people aren't using Cross Border Health? Just because you aren't living in the UK, doesn't mean you can't use the NHS in UK. It can be covered by the country you live in, so if somebody living in France wants to go to the UK they can. On holiday you are covered through the EHIC. Same across Europe.


Regardless of that, you might want to check flooding as this is the biggest challenge coming and you're still young:-)


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Old Aug 31st 2016, 3:07 pm
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Are you sure these people aren't using Cross Border Health? Just because you aren't living in the UK, doesn't mean you can't use the NHS in UK. It can be covered by the country you live in, so if somebody living in France wants to go to the UK they can. On holiday you are covered through the EHIC. Same across Europe. ....
There is also legitimate healthcare tourism, paid for by insurance or cash. My health insurance will pay for treatment overseas, and the insurer isn't going to object if the cost is lower in another country than it would be in the US.

If I ever needed surgery, getting treatment in the UK is certainly something I would consider if my insurance covered it, and especially if it only covered part of the cost.
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Old Aug 31st 2016, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
There is also legitimate healthcare tourism, paid for by insurance or cash. My health insurance will pay for treatment overseas, and the insurer isn't going to object if the cost is lower in another country than it would be in the US.

If I ever needed surgery, getting treatment in the UK is certainly something I would consider if my insurance covered it, and especially if it only covered part of the cost.
I am sure that happens, also sure it is tiny, a rounding error.
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Old Aug 31st 2016, 3:19 pm
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I am sure that happens, also sure it is tiny, a rounding error.
In a previous job I met several people who were planning on private paid-for treatment in the UK. ..... So it might be more common than you'd expect.
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Old Aug 31st 2016, 3:32 pm
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When I was in the UK I had private paid for treatment, but I was more thinking of NHS budget versus treatment undertaken by the NHS and charged.


Anyway a read for anybody interested

https://fullfact.org/health/health-t...-and-who-pays/

NHS costs something in excess of GBP10 million an hour
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Originally Posted by Boiler
When I was in the UK I had private paid for treatment, but I was more thinking of NHS budget versus treatment undertaken by the NHS and charged.


Anyway a read for anybody interested

https://fullfact.org/health/health-t...-and-who-pays/

NHS costs something in excess of GBP10 million an hour
So if those figures are to be believed "deliberate health tourism" costs the NHS an upper estimate of about 28 hours worth of the NHS's total costs (£280m at £10m an hour...).

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