oncoman

Folks
Have any of you heard about the new restrictions on non EU docs in the UK?
Apparently new restrictions have been placed or the equal opportunities have been removed giving EU docs from Poland etc preferernce over non EU docs.
How do you think this will affect the system and health care practises if at all?
Appreciate yuor comments
Am new here and this is a great forum
Thanx

Celsius

You do realize that this is the USA forum, for those who are living or wishing to live in the US?

BigDavyG

So this issue could impact British expats, living in the US, particularly long-term expats who maybe have little UK documentation left

Shahlax

Do you mean doctors or documentation? I think you mean doctors.

BigDavyG

Now that I read it I think you're right

fatbrit

and no idea!

Is this an anti-EU rant?
Or an rant against Poland?
Or what?

Most of the ranters who post here seem to choose Oz as their destination to "avoid the immigrants" rather than our little spot here.

Seems logical to have reasonably unified documentation in the EU to me -- cuts out paperwork and bureaucrats.

cutina

doesn't appear to be a rant to me, the name oncoman implies he's probably an oncologist, so i think it is a genuine question.

As for my opinion, i'll have to think about it a bit first

fatbrit

Certainly sounds anti-Polish to me -- but I really haven't got a clue what he's actually on about.

I'll paste him the stuff I've just posted down in immigration about the EU:

European Union (EU) citizenship
The Maastricht Treaty introduced the concept of citizenship of the European Union. This citizenship flows from national citizenship — one holds the nationality of an EU member state and as a result becomes a "citizen of the Union" in addition.

EU citizenship offers certain rights and privileges within the EU; in many areas EU citizens have the same or similar rights as native citizens in member states. Such rights granted to EU citizens ([1]) include:

freedom of movement and the right of residence within the territory of the Member States;
right to vote and stand as a candidate at elections to the European Parliament and at municipal elections in the Member State of residence;
right to diplomatic and consular protection;
right of petition to the European Parliament; and
right to refer to the Ombudsman.
The right of residence connotes not only the right of abode, but also the right to apply to work in any position (including national civil services with the exception of sensitive positions such as defence).

EU member states also use a common passport design, burgundy coloured, with the name of the member state, national seal, and the title "European Union" (or its translation), and most also use a common format for their driving licences in order to simplify their use within the whole EU.

Union citizenship continues to gain in status and the European Court of Justice has stated that Union citizenship will be the "fundamental status of nationals of Member States" (see Case C-184/99 Rudy Grzelczyk v Centre Public d'Aide Sociale d'Ottignes-Louvain-la-Neuve, [2001] ECR I-6193, para 31). The European Commission has affirmed that Union citizenship should be the fundamental status of EU nationals, but this is not accepted by many of the member states of the European Union.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship

Shahlax

I think he/she is talking about medical doctors, not documentation

fatbrit

Possibly! Still think he'd be better off in the Barbie though!

cutina

i think the reason it didn't to me is because i know some croatians who have had trouble applying for UK PhD positions because they are non-EU. I took poland to be just en example of a nationality this would effect, although maybe it is because of a real-life experience with someone from poland. I'm not really of the opinion that EU members should have preferential treatment, but then again, we are part of a union, so i can see why others may be in favour.

Duncan Roberts

Wasn't this put in place to try and help preserve the healthcare systems in the countries who need good doctors, like India and South Africa, because most of their top doctors are being tapped up by Britain and other EU member countries?

fatbrit

The EU stuff says I can go and work and live in your country and you can come and work and live in mine. We signed up and it's a two-way street. Croatia, beautiful though it may be, ain't in yet. And from my frequent hols there before I came to the US, I would say it has a long way to go before it will be ready.

cutina

ok. I'm sorry i read the OP wrong. but now i'm confused...
I thought he meant that the preferential treatment was to be lost, since i had thought it was already in place for a while.

Ray

Perhaps the OP could tell us what he means..exactly,, and how it will effect
the alien population of the US ....