Registering a birth in the UK
#31
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
Just wondering for any other users who had children in the US if you listed the parents birth country as UK instead of England, Scotland, Wales etc on their US Birth certificate??
Personally I have always listed UK for myself and on my SSN record as I believe I read on here that always refer to country as United Kingdom rather than England, Wales etc as the UK is a sovereign state.
I was concerned if I listed Scotland as my birth country on our child's certificate that it would not match up with the UK listing at the SSA. When doing the worksheet I entered the UK for their birth certificate I did Edinburgh, U.K instead of Edinburgh, Scotland.
Personally I have always listed UK for myself and on my SSN record as I believe I read on here that always refer to country as United Kingdom rather than England, Wales etc as the UK is a sovereign state.
I was concerned if I listed Scotland as my birth country on our child's certificate that it would not match up with the UK listing at the SSA. When doing the worksheet I entered the UK for their birth certificate I did Edinburgh, U.K instead of Edinburgh, Scotland.
Last edited by Blue York; Sep 6th 2020 at 4:09 pm.
#32
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
Also I know there is a cheaper way to get a copy of the certificate but for ease I juts ordered 2 when I did it so I would have them to hand. The registration does not automatically include the certificate. That way when the kids are old enough they can get their copy and I will have a backup.
It's the ISSUE date of the birth cert that is important. So even if you registered the birth within 3 months, you can still have problems if the birth cert is ISSUED more than 3 months after the birth e.g. you lost the original birth cert and had a replacement issued more than 3 months after the birth.
UK consular birth registration is optional but it is probably a good idea for children born in the US. UK consular birth registration solves these issues and will make it much easier for the child to prove UK citizenship later in life.
UK consular birth registration is optional but it is probably a good idea for children born in the US. UK consular birth registration solves these issues and will make it much easier for the child to prove UK citizenship later in life.
At the hospital I selected Edinburgh, United Kingdom for the US birth record/certificate though I am overthinking and think I should of put Edinburgh, Scotland. I am contemplating if I should have this corrected OR when then UK consular birth certificate is created they look at my Scottish birth certificate and will write down parents birth as Edinburgh, Scotland instead of Edinburgh, U.K.
As the other user said its not an issue but thinking about how potentially Scotland may be independent in the future here. Probably overthinking this whole thing but your input is appreciated as you went through the process too.
Many thanks
#33
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
I was just curious when you registered your child's birth in the US if you selected the parents birth country as the United Kingdom or if you selected one of the nation countries (Scotland, England etc)
At the hospital I selected Edinburgh, United Kingdom for the US birth record/certificate though I am overthinking and think I should of put Edinburgh, Scotland. I am contemplating if I should have this corrected OR when then UK consular birth certificate is created they look at my Scottish birth certificate and will write down parents birth as Edinburgh, Scotland instead of Edinburgh, U.K.
As the other user said its not an issue but thinking about how potentially Scotland may be independent in the future here. Probably overthinking this whole thing but your input is appreciated as you went through the process too.
Many thanks
At the hospital I selected Edinburgh, United Kingdom for the US birth record/certificate though I am overthinking and think I should of put Edinburgh, Scotland. I am contemplating if I should have this corrected OR when then UK consular birth certificate is created they look at my Scottish birth certificate and will write down parents birth as Edinburgh, Scotland instead of Edinburgh, U.K.
As the other user said its not an issue but thinking about how potentially Scotland may be independent in the future here. Probably overthinking this whole thing but your input is appreciated as you went through the process too.
Many thanks
Last edited by tht; Sep 8th 2020 at 2:21 am.
#34
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
my case is not a good example for you to follow, I fall in to a corner case, I was not born in the UK and because I was born before 1981 to a British mother and German father I did not become a British at birth, I was only able to pass on British citizenship to my children because I was registered at the direction of the Secretary of State at the home office, which means I became a British Citizen otherwise than by decent. I already got my Brexit hedge back in 2008 when the writing was on the wall (by getting a German passport again).
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
Slight bump on this for any expats who have had children in the U.S, is it advised to list the parents place of birth as United Kingdom or the specific nation (Scotland, England, Wales etc) ??
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
#37
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
I also think Scotland is a “country” not a “nation“. And your UK passport should say British Citizen.
I would not try to get clever with this application, my brother made a error when submitting for his children and cited the wrong act and it caused him no end of issues, and a lot of back and forth and having to contact different agencies for information.
Last edited by tht; Sep 15th 2020 at 7:07 pm.
#38
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
It just states the hospital I was born and the city name there is no country of birth the only place that it says Scotland is at the top left of the certificate stating "this is an extract from an entry of the register of births in Scotland"
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
Place of Birth: so I assume hospital name here
Town: Town the hospital is in
County (if applicable): County Name here if applicable
Country: United Kingdom
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
looking back at the form (assuming it’s not changed) it has 4 box's, again my answer won’t help you as I was not born in a hospital or the UK, and the county name for where I was born also changed in the mean time, but I put the current name and had no issues, so your would look like this:
Place of Birth: so I assume hospital name here
Town: Town the hospital is in
County (if applicable): County Name here if applicable
Country: United Kingdom
Place of Birth: so I assume hospital name here
Town: Town the hospital is in
County (if applicable): County Name here if applicable
Country: United Kingdom
If there are any other users on here who have had children in the US and can provide their input that would be great! 🙂
#41
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
I see, yeah I am not sure whether to keep it as U.K or change it to Scotland on their US birth certificate I assume the British authorities will list my place of birth on the British birth certificate. It should hopefully not make any difference when obtaining their British consular birth certificate and having the records sent to the GRO and to Scotland.
If there are any other users on here who have had children in the US and can provide their input that would be great! 🙂
If there are any other users on here who have had children in the US and can provide their input that would be great! 🙂
#42
Re: Registering a birth in the UK
This really is a non-issue. The FCO will use their preferred format regardless of what is listed on your child’s birth certificate or what you write on the application form. The application form notes even give you an example:
Father’s date and place of birth and occupation
The place of birth will be recorded by city and country, eg. Cardiff, Wales.
The place of birth will be recorded by city and country, eg. Cardiff, Wales.
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
I inputted United Kingdom at the hospital for parents place of birth though as the birth certificate has not been issued yet you can have information corrected (in the state we live in anyways)
I see, I guess the big thing for me is to ensure that it has the marginal note of S to have the records sent to Scotland. I state this as having a birth record in Scotland is a claim to Scottish citizenship if Scotland become independent. With the way things are going it may be a possibility so I just wanted to ensure all bases were covered. Do you know if many folk enter it as UK or if they do it as specific nation what would you advise?
I see, I guess the big thing for me is to ensure that it has the marginal note of S to have the records sent to Scotland. I state this as having a birth record in Scotland is a claim to Scottish citizenship if Scotland become independent. With the way things are going it may be a possibility so I just wanted to ensure all bases were covered. Do you know if many folk enter it as UK or if they do it as specific nation what would you advise?
https://www.gov.uk/national-records-of-scotland
#45
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Re: Registering a birth in the UK
I doubt it will come down to what you put on a form, look at Ireland/NI, people are able to claim both Citizenships. If you are that worried message them and ask:
https://www.gov.uk/national-records-of-scotland
https://www.gov.uk/national-records-of-scotland