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Old Jul 11th 2012, 11:44 pm
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Originally Posted by WEBlue
Is this really true? Most of the stories on my local news seem to be traffic accidents, arson, & murders, leavened with a few cute stories about local school-kids or pets. Then there are several detailed weather reports. I don't see what products are being touted . . . ?
Earlier this week the Channel 3 people were at some Hilton hotel doing the weather and other things, and saying what a great place it was and only $89 a night.

Not an isolated incident either.

So if that's not product placement, what is?

I like the majority of the presenters as people, 1 or 2 wind me up, but only slightly. It's just when they sensationalise stuff with zero basis, get people all fired up... that's not journalism...

It's light weight, tame, jolly - ideal really for breakfast time.

Just don't call it journalism...
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Earlier this week the Channel 3 people were at some Hilton hotel doing the weather and other things, and saying what a great place it was and only $89 a night.

Not an isolated incident either.

So if that's not product placement, what is?
I can honestly say I've never seen that on our local news. I guess we're just lucky enough to have picked a good channel.
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This is the local 'journalism'.

Woman with ridiculous Tammy Wynette hair stands outside a house - "There has been a fatal shooting here - we tried to speak to someone but they wouldn't open the door. Back to the studio."
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Old Jul 12th 2012, 12:03 am
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It's funny - outside of the NHL Americans don't appear to give a **** about Canada. Doesn't seem to be any coverage of it and you would be hard pushed to find people that know who the Prime Minster is. It doesn't seem to register on the public consciousness. Mexico does because of the immigration and the headless corpses. Maybe the trouble is that Canada is too civilized and boring.
Up where we used to live in Maine, there's be a fair bit...usually covering hunting accidents or people who have been arrested coming into the US with guns and no hunting licenses or vice-versa.

Also used to get a few Canadian tv channels and they weren't so bad. Don't know what the folks in the Canada forum complain about really, they were much better than the local channels we had. Apart from when the Stanley Cup really going as it was all just hockey then
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
This is the local 'journalism'.

Woman with ridiculous Tammy Wynette hair stands outside a house - "There has been a fatal shooting here - we tried to speak to someone but they wouldn't open the door. Back to the studio."
We get there.

What's worse is, all local news has to be done live at the scene, rather than being pre-recorded from an earlier segment.

Not so bad if it's just after an accident. It's a bit shit going over the same story 12 hours later, when the scene has been cleaned up and it's now snowing and the poor presenter is shivering away etc.

And it's always that poor, pasty, Brazilian chap they have doing those shit stories, usually in some ghetto.
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CNN keeps sending obscure producers to their "favorite" Spa/Daycare Center/Museum etc.

Bay news nine - "Florida on a Tankful". Go to Busch Gardens/Legoland or some obscure Attraction.

All in the name of public service. ***If you would like your business featured in this segment please contact us*** [we will send you a price list]
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Originally Posted by Sally Redux
Oh ours definitely does. The big news item is something like the latest Vegas show.

They also had a long news item supporting Taco Bell at the time there was adverse publicity about their 'ground beef'.
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Earlier this week the Channel 3 people were at some Hilton hotel doing the weather and other things, and saying what a great place it was and only $89 a night.

Not an isolated incident either.

So if that's not product placement, what is?

It's light weight, tame, jolly - ideal really for breakfast time.

Just don't call it journalism...
I'm not calling it (good) journalism, but I've yet to see much if any product being advertised on the local news . . . in my area, that is. Maybe you two are in more big-city commercial areas than I am.

Oh & I never watch those breakfast TV shows--too "lite" for my taste entirely.

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I can honestly say I've never seen that on our local news. I guess we're just lucky enough to have picked a good channel.
Me too. Maybe small towns have their advantages?
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Originally Posted by WEBlue
Me too. Maybe small towns have their advantages?
Our small town has about 50/50 ads to news. Recent ones have included a new solar cell store, a guy who bicycles around to get your recyclables, a company that picks up dog poop on your lawn and a guy who turned a double-decker bus into a fish and chip shop. OK, the last one I can forgive.

Last night's lead item (I kid you not) was about someone's shed catching fire. You may think, "Nice if that's the worse thing that happens there". The second item was about 10 fireman who were injured, 1 seriously, in a mini-bus crash on their way to fight a forest fire. Slightly more important than a flammable outbuilding I would think.

Our local Nielsen market is ranked 192 out of 210, so we're pretty small. The news operation at the TV channel is basically a training centre. They take graduates from a crappy L.A. TV journalism school. They're all paid minimum wage and thrown in at the deep end. The news director seems to have a thing for 90lb, skinny blondes. When they're sent out to cover a story, they have to do it all by themselves, no camera man or sound man. Most of them last 6 months or so before hey bugger off to pastures new or rethink their career choice.
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Originally Posted by WEBlue
Is this really true? Most of the stories on my local news seem to be traffic accidents, arson, & murders, leavened with a few cute stories about local school-kids or pets. Then there are several detailed weather reports. I don't see what products are being touted . . . ?
Yup, wife works in PR and so do most of our friends. Look for those segments after the action news. After the break stay tuned to find out the new weight loss secret...
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Americas' hat lol.

Sally, it was just an observation...

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And here is tonight's advertisement from our local news, masquerading as a news item;
http://www.ktvz.com/news/Bend-woman-...z/-/index.html
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Yup, wife works in PR and so do most of our friends. Look for those segments after the action news. After the break stay tuned to find out the new weight loss secret...
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And here is tonight's advertisement from our local news, masquerading as a news item;
http://www.ktvz.com/news/Bend-woman-...z/-/index.html
OK, I watched last night's local news as well as the lunchtime version today. I did see one possible "product" covered in last night's news, a minute's coverage of two films that are opening locally, one for kids & one for adults. The noon news had nothing but local robberies, an arson, a mystery around a missing man whose body was found, shots of local beaches & endless discussions of the weather with more shots of local beaches & fountains, etc.

I can see that the film companies may have provided the clips and paid this news programme for showing them, but there was no mention of where the movies were playing, or anything hard-sell really. It was just a sort of fluffy "local goings-on" kind of item.

I'll keep watching though & see if I see more in the way of hard "product" . . . .
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OK, I watched last night's local news as well as the lunchtime version today. I did see one possible "product" covered in last night's news, a minute's coverage of two films that are opening locally, one for kids & one for adults. The noon news had nothing but local robberies, an arson, a mystery around a missing man whose body was found, shots of local beaches & endless discussions of the weather with more shots of local beaches & fountains, etc.

I can see that the film companies may have provided the clips and paid this news programme for showing them, but there was no mention of where the movies were playing, or anything hard-sell really. It was just a sort of fluffy "local goings-on" kind of item.

I'll keep watching though & see if I see more in the way of hard "product" . . . .
Ice Age? That's made by Blue Sky, who are in your neck of the woods, but even then, not really news worthy.
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Ice Age? That's made by Blue Sky, who are in your neck of the woods, but even then, not really news worthy.
Yes! One of the films was Ice Age-Continental Drift, & the other was Red Lights, which seems to be about the paranormal (& looked somewhat interesting).

And you're correct that Blue Sky is located in the next county over. Hmmmm . . .interesting. Not sure if there's a local connection for Red Lights, but I suppose there could be.
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Yes! One of the films was Ice Age-Continental Drift, & the other was Red Lights, which seems to be about the paranormal (& looked somewhat interesting).

And you're correct that Blue Sky is located in the next county over. Hmmmm . . .interesting. Not sure if there's a local connection for Red Lights, but I suppose there could be.
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