Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
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Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
Family and I turn up at ORD (Chicago):
Immigration: Where are you staying?
Me: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Immigration: Ah, I like Fort Wor... what? Fort Wayne? Why?
Me: Visiting some friends there
Minutes later at customs:
Customs: Where are you going?
Me: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Customs: Er... ok (blinks, confused look), have a nice vacation
At baggage transfer:
Handler: Where are you heading?
Me: (thinking it's written on the baggage tag) Fort Wayne
Handler: What for?
Me: Friends live there
Handler (to another handler): They're going to Fort Wayne!
Other handler: (Chuckles)
Clearly not many British tourists head to Fort Wayne!
Immigration: Where are you staying?
Me: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Immigration: Ah, I like Fort Wor... what? Fort Wayne? Why?
Me: Visiting some friends there
Minutes later at customs:
Customs: Where are you going?
Me: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Customs: Er... ok (blinks, confused look), have a nice vacation
At baggage transfer:
Handler: Where are you heading?
Me: (thinking it's written on the baggage tag) Fort Wayne
Handler: What for?
Me: Friends live there
Handler (to another handler): They're going to Fort Wayne!
Other handler: (Chuckles)
Clearly not many British tourists head to Fort Wayne!
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Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
We drive back & forth to Canada frequently (trips to the supermarket, going out for dinner, looking around IKEA .. also to the airport to fly overseas.)
Arriving back in the US, we always hand the guy our two US Passports. He always looks at them, then asks, "What is your citizenship?" My wife (who always drives, therefore is the primary interlocutor) always ignores the question. So the guy asks again more rudely, at which point I lean over and answer...
I've noticed at other ports they never ask this, but it's universal at Ogdensburg.. bloody stupid.
Arriving back in the US, we always hand the guy our two US Passports. He always looks at them, then asks, "What is your citizenship?" My wife (who always drives, therefore is the primary interlocutor) always ignores the question. So the guy asks again more rudely, at which point I lean over and answer...
I've noticed at other ports they never ask this, but it's universal at Ogdensburg.. bloody stupid.
#18
Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
We drive back & forth to Canada frequently (trips to the supermarket, going out for dinner, looking around IKEA .. also to the airport to fly overseas.)
Arriving back in the US, we always hand the guy our two US Passports. He always looks at them, then asks, "What is your citizenship?" My wife (who always drives, therefore is the primary interlocutor) always ignores the question. So the guy asks again more rudely, at which point I lean over and answer...
I've noticed at other ports they never ask this, but it's universal at Ogdensburg.. bloody stupid.
Arriving back in the US, we always hand the guy our two US Passports. He always looks at them, then asks, "What is your citizenship?" My wife (who always drives, therefore is the primary interlocutor) always ignores the question. So the guy asks again more rudely, at which point I lean over and answer...
I've noticed at other ports they never ask this, but it's universal at Ogdensburg.. bloody stupid.
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Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
The weirdest one I've had was an entry INTO Canada driving a rental car. I was asked: do you have any firearms? Answer: no. Q: Did you leave your firearms at home? A: no, I don't any. Q: How many firearms do you own? A: none. Q: What kind of firearms do you own? A: I don't own any. Got pulled over and our entire family had to wait while the car was thorougly searched.
Last time I came back I wrote "Groceries (non-meat, non-dairy)" on the form. The customs lady read it aloud, chuckled and waved me through.
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Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
The weirdest one I've had was an entry INTO Canada driving a rental car. I was asked: do you have any firearms? Answer: no. Q: Did you leave your firearms at home? A: no, I don't any. Q: How many firearms do you own? A: none. Q: What kind of firearms do you own? A: I don't own any. Got pulled over and our entire family had to wait while the car was thorougly searched..
I remember a while back coming through immigration with my dad, he presented his British passport, I had my US one... the IO was confused about the situation and started to give us a right grilling and grief for some reason and my dad was getting annoyed over some pettiness. We were there a while because the IO got a bee up his butt and eventually threatened my father with "...I can have you detained, Sir". Not to be outdone, my dad rebutted with "Well, I can call the State Department with your name, Sir" while producing his UN passport. Apparently, IOs don't like to apologize.
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Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
Just curious ( bored at work and nipped over from the Canadian boards )
If you are a US citizen ( and therefore entitled to enter the country) could you refuse to answer any questions such as where you have been and why?
I realise in practice such an approach is just asking for the old rubber gloves to come out to play but once they have established you are a US citizen what power do they have to compel you to answer?
If you are a US citizen ( and therefore entitled to enter the country) could you refuse to answer any questions such as where you have been and why?
I realise in practice such an approach is just asking for the old rubber gloves to come out to play but once they have established you are a US citizen what power do they have to compel you to answer?
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Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
Just curious ( bored at work and nipped over from the Canadian boards )
If you are a US citizen ( and therefore entitled to enter the country) could you refuse to answer any questions such as where you have been and why?
I realise in practice such an approach is just asking for the old rubber gloves to come out to play but once they have established you are a US citizen what power do they have to compel you to answer?
If you are a US citizen ( and therefore entitled to enter the country) could you refuse to answer any questions such as where you have been and why?
I realise in practice such an approach is just asking for the old rubber gloves to come out to play but once they have established you are a US citizen what power do they have to compel you to answer?
When you are convinced that an applicant for admission is a citizen of the United States, the examination is terminated. This is not to say that your role as an inspector is always completed at that time. Listing of the subject in a lookout system may dictate further action, such as notifying Customs
or another agency of the person’s entry.
It must be emphasized that the grounds of inadmissibility contained in 212(a) of the INA are applicable only to aliens. Consequently, the examination of a person claiming to be a United States citizen is
limited to matters required to establish present citizenship. Once you are satisfied the person being examined is a U.S. citizen and any required lookout query has been completed, the examination is over.
Temporary detention of a U.S. citizen for extensive questioning generally requires reasonable suspicion that the person is involved in illegal activity. Inspectors cross-designated to perform Customs inspections may, of course, continue questioning for Customs purposes. If probable cause to arrest the U.S. citizen cannot be developed within a reasonable period of time, the person must be released.
Source: http://www.ilw.com/immigrationdaily/...8,0513-cbp.pdf
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Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
When you are convinced that an applicant for admission is a citizen of the United States, the examination is terminated.
.................
Temporary detention of a U.S. citizen for extensive questioning generally requires reasonable suspicion that the person is involved in illegal activity. Inspectors cross-designated to perform Customs inspections may, of course, continue questioning for Customs purposes. If probable cause to arrest the U.S. citizen cannot be developed within a reasonable period of time, the person must be released.
Source: http://www.ilw.com/immigrationdaily/...8,0513-cbp.pdf
.................
Temporary detention of a U.S. citizen for extensive questioning generally requires reasonable suspicion that the person is involved in illegal activity. Inspectors cross-designated to perform Customs inspections may, of course, continue questioning for Customs purposes. If probable cause to arrest the U.S. citizen cannot be developed within a reasonable period of time, the person must be released.
Source: http://www.ilw.com/immigrationdaily/...8,0513-cbp.pdf
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Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
Just curious ( bored at work and nipped over from the Canadian boards )
If you are a US citizen ( and therefore entitled to enter the country) could you refuse to answer any questions such as where you have been and why?
I realise in practice such an approach is just asking for the old rubber gloves to come out to play but once they have established you are a US citizen what power do they have to compel you to answer?
If you are a US citizen ( and therefore entitled to enter the country) could you refuse to answer any questions such as where you have been and why?
I realise in practice such an approach is just asking for the old rubber gloves to come out to play but once they have established you are a US citizen what power do they have to compel you to answer?
2. No
There are anecdotal accounts of some frequent flyers getting fed up and irritated only to be searched by Customs. Single male in his 50s coming from certain countries are definitely searched by customs.
Once I had a full Mac/CD/DVD check
#25
Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
when we activated our L visas they officer was asking about the kids and did we plan any more. We were so stressed we didnt know what to say - ie was there a wrong answer. i cant remember what we mumbled but it must have been okay as we got in.
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Re: Questions asked by Immigrations/Customs at POE ? What are they ?
I am happy to say though that my last experience of getting through customs/IC was much more relaxed. My conversation this time went fine until he asked "How did you meet your girlfriend?" When I said on the internet he just sighed, gave a look like he didn't know what to think but sent me through no worries