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Old Aug 25th 2017, 3:52 pm
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I've read notes about the prevailing wage.

L1 no requirement but significantly less could cause problems. So I assume the employer needs to state what I'll be paid in USD.

Where do they obtain the prevailing wage from?

Let's say for example the prevailing wage on glassdoor for my position in LA is 105K.

What range would they be looking at and what would cause possible issues?



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Old Aug 25th 2017, 4:31 pm
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I believe this may be a good link:

https://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pwscreens.cfm

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Old Aug 25th 2017, 4:34 pm
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Not sure I follow this. Prevailing wage must be at minimum wage? I assumed it would be the average wage for the job position. Am I correct in thinking this?

You selected the All Industries database for 7/2017 - 6/2018. Your search returned the following:
Area Code: 31084 Area Title: Los Angeles-Long Beach-Glendale, CA Metropolitan Division GeoLevel: 1 OES/SOC Code: 15-1141 OES/SOC Title: Database Administrators Level 1 Wage: $27.85 hour - $57,928 year Level 2 Wage: $37.07 hour - $77,106 year Level 3 Wage: $46.28 hour - $96,262 year Level 4 Wage: $55.50 hour - $115,440 year Mean Wage (H-2B): $46.28 hour - $96,262 year This wage applies to the following O*Net occupations:
15-1141.00 Database Administrators
Administer, test, and implement computer databases, applying knowledge of database management systems. Coordinate changes to computer databases. May plan, coordinate, and implement security measures to safeguard computer databases.
O*Net™ JobZone: 4 -- Education & Training Code: No Level Set
The prevailing wage must be at, or above the federal or state or local minimum wage, whichever is higher. The federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr effective July 24, 2009.
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Originally Posted by alfista1 View Post
Not sure I follow this. Prevailing wage must be at minimum wage? I assumed it would be the average wage for the job position. Am I correct in thinking this?
Prevailing Wage is defined as the hourly wage, usual benefits and overtime, paid in the largest city in each county, to the majority of workers, laborers, and mechanics. Prevailing wages are established, by the Department of Labor & Industries, for each trade and occupation employed in the performance of public work.

I read your question regarding prevailing wage must be at minimum wage and think that, for a job to qualify under the prevailing wage definition, it must be at or above the minimum wage for that area -nothing more.

If you are looking to obtain an L-1A or B visa then, taking into account your example of Database administrator in LA area, the prevailing wage for this work is between 57,928 USD and 115,000 per annum.

Anything much lower that this is going to bring into question whether the job warrants an L-1A/B visa.
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Prevailing Wage is defined as the hourly wage, usual benefits and overtime, paid in the largest city in each county, to the majority of workers, laborers, and mechanics. Prevailing wages are established, by the Department of Labor & Industries, for each trade and occupation employed in the performance of public work.

I read your question regarding prevailing wage must be at minimum wage and think that, for a job to qualify under the prevailing wage definition, it must be at or above the minimum wage for that area -nothing more.

If you are looking to obtain an L-1A or B visa then, taking into account your example of Database administrator in LA area, the prevailing wage for this work is between 57,928 USD and 115,000 per annum.

Anything much lower that this is going to bring into question whether the job warrants an L-1A/B visa.
Great thanks for the clarification. What threw me off was the part in bold on the site.
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I just looked up my wage. I guess I am lucky that I have always been paid 10% above the maximum wage shown in this database. I wonder where they get the numbers from. The only employers that paid within the pay range have been government employers that came with PERS benefits. Maybe these salaries assume a 10% H1B discount.

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Originally Posted by alfista1 View Post
Not sure I follow this. Prevailing wage must be at minimum wage? I assumed it would be the average wage for the job position. Am I correct in thinking this?
That is a "boiler plate" warning. Look at the figures after the "Level x."
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Originally Posted by S Folinsky View Post
That is a "boiler plate" warning. Look at the figures after the "Level x."
Sorry I don't quite follow "Level x."
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Where x=42
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Originally Posted by mrken30 View Post
Where x=42
Can you clarify please?


You selected the All Industries database for 7/2017 - 6/2018. Your search returned the following:
Area Code: 31084 Area Title: Los Angeles-Long Beach-Glendale, CA Metropolitan Division GeoLevel: 1 OES/SOC Code: 15-1141 OES/SOC Title: Database Administrators Level 1 Wage: $27.85 hour - $57,928 year Level 2 Wage: $37.07 hour - $77,106 year Level 3 Wage: $46.28 hour - $96,262 year Level 4 Wage: $55.50 hour - $115,440 year Mean Wage (H-2B): $46.28 hour - $96,262 year This wage applies to the following O*Net occupations:
15-1141.00 Database Administrators
Administer, test, and implement computer databases, applying knowledge of database management systems. Coordinate changes to computer databases. May plan, coordinate, and implement security measures to safeguard computer databases.
O*Net™ JobZone: 4 -- Education & Training Code: No Level Set
The prevailing wage must be at, or above the federal or state or local minimum wage, whichever is higher. The federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr effective July 24, 2009.
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42 was a joke, maybe showing my age.

42 comes from HHGG

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Originally Posted by mrken30 View Post
42 was a joke, maybe showing my age.

42 comes from HHGG

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Ca2r7z4rL.jpg
swooosh right over my head that one!
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Anyway I know it's not a requirement for the L1 visa but recommended.

The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) requires that the hiring of a foreign worker will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of U.S. workers comparably employed. To comply with the statute, the Department's regulations require that the wages offered to a foreign worker must be the prevailing wage rate for the occupational classification in the area of employment.

The prevailing wage rate is defined as the average wage paid to similarly employed workers in a specific occupation in the area of intended employment.
average so:
Mean Wage (H-2B): $46.28 hour - $96,262 year
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