Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
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Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
Hi all,
I'm new here, and hope I am posting in the right place!
My partner and I are probably going to move to New York City next year, due to his job - he is in a managerial position and they are opening an office in NYC, that they want him to transfer to. He will be applying for an L-1 Visa, and I, as his wife, will have to get an L-2 Visa and then apply for an EAD once there (we discussed my not working but I hate that idea! )
Anyway we are probably 90% decided and in favour of this decision - we are young (mid 20s) and currently live in London, but are both New Zealanders (been living here 3 years now). It seems like a great opportunity, and one that not many Kiwis get.
I do have some concerns - my main one is that I have a pre-existing, chronic medical condition. It is well controlled with medication, and it hasn't caused me to be sick in a long time, but I'm concerned about getting medical insurance with it (I will probably be covered by husband's insurance through work until I start working myself, one more thing to check with UK office!)
As said, I don't often actually get sick, but I do see my GP regularly for blood tests, prescriptions, etc.
I just was wondering if anyone had any advice or experience with this - is it possible to get insurance with a pre-existing condition?
I'm very sorry if this subject has been brought up before - had a good search of the forums but couldn't find anything pertinent to my case!
Thanks so much in advance!
I'm new here, and hope I am posting in the right place!
My partner and I are probably going to move to New York City next year, due to his job - he is in a managerial position and they are opening an office in NYC, that they want him to transfer to. He will be applying for an L-1 Visa, and I, as his wife, will have to get an L-2 Visa and then apply for an EAD once there (we discussed my not working but I hate that idea! )
Anyway we are probably 90% decided and in favour of this decision - we are young (mid 20s) and currently live in London, but are both New Zealanders (been living here 3 years now). It seems like a great opportunity, and one that not many Kiwis get.
I do have some concerns - my main one is that I have a pre-existing, chronic medical condition. It is well controlled with medication, and it hasn't caused me to be sick in a long time, but I'm concerned about getting medical insurance with it (I will probably be covered by husband's insurance through work until I start working myself, one more thing to check with UK office!)
As said, I don't often actually get sick, but I do see my GP regularly for blood tests, prescriptions, etc.
I just was wondering if anyone had any advice or experience with this - is it possible to get insurance with a pre-existing condition?
I'm very sorry if this subject has been brought up before - had a good search of the forums but couldn't find anything pertinent to my case!
Thanks so much in advance!
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Re: L-2 Visa
Yes. It would be less expensive if your husband were able to get medical coverage through his employer's group policy, but if that's not possible you will likely pay major $$ for coverage. Further, you may have to wait for up to one year prior to coverage starting... so be sure to have plenty of medication with you when you arrive in the US (or can get it sent to you).
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Ian
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Ian
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FYI, whatever job you get may not offer benefits or the right kind. I suggest you get your coverage written into your spouse's contract with his employer, or pursue it from that angle.
He needs to get in touch with HR and find out what they offer.
Your options will be state-specific.
FYI, whatever job you get may not offer benefits or the right kind. I suggest you get your coverage written into your spouse's contract with his employer, or pursue it from that angle.
He needs to get in touch with HR and find out what they offer.
Your options will be state-specific.
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Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
Ian's response seemed a little frightening to me. If I remember correctly and I may be wrong] getting coverage shouldn't be a problem or that expensive if you can show that you have had continuous coverage under other medical coverage. Coming from the UK, I am pretty sure that the NHS qualifies.
As such, you should be able to get coverage to start immediately, but you may have to pay for it. It is likely if you are transfering with your husband that he works for a larger company, and they typically have coverage with the bigger health care places where most if not all conditions are covered if you can show continued coverage.
Ian is right though, you should have sufficient drugs available to weather you through any problems.
As such, you should be able to get coverage to start immediately, but you may have to pay for it. It is likely if you are transfering with your husband that he works for a larger company, and they typically have coverage with the bigger health care places where most if not all conditions are covered if you can show continued coverage.
Ian is right though, you should have sufficient drugs available to weather you through any problems.
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Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
Ian's response seemed a little frightening to me. If I remember correctly and I may be wrong] getting coverage shouldn't be a problem or that expensive if you can show that you have had continuous coverage under other medical coverage. Coming from the UK, I am pretty sure that the NHS qualifies.
As such, you should be able to get coverage to start immediately, but you may have to pay for it. It is likely if you are transfering with your husband that he works for a larger company, and they typically have coverage with the bigger health care places where most if not all conditions are covered if you can show continued coverage.
Ian is right though, you should have sufficient drugs available to weather you through any problems.
As such, you should be able to get coverage to start immediately, but you may have to pay for it. It is likely if you are transfering with your husband that he works for a larger company, and they typically have coverage with the bigger health care places where most if not all conditions are covered if you can show continued coverage.
Ian is right though, you should have sufficient drugs available to weather you through any problems.
Edit: I've just received the following info...I hope this helps the OP.
The HIPAA final rule:
http://www.dol.gov/federalregister/P...px?DocId=10270
The rule was changed to specifically include foreign government plans such as the NHS. Also, it specifically says that a a certificate of creditable coverage is NOT required - just some reasonable proof (e.g. national insurance card, letter from doctor, etc.)
Search the document for the word "foreign" for applicable text.
Shorter version - here is a comment from Blue Cross/Blue Shield, which specifically mentions that the the law changed to include plans such as the NHS as creditable coverage.
http://www.bcbsil.com/PDF/legislative_update_405.pdf
FAQs address the fact that a doctor's letter or some such can suffice if a certificate of creditable cover is not available:
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_hipaa.html
I have gotten this to work with a private insurer, and also for another person, it was accepted by a state high risk pool.
I believe it used to be a problem, but now the law has changed. Sometimes one has to point out the law, as not all insurers are aware of it (the state high risk pool wasn't) - but they were glad to oblige once it was pointed out to them.
Last edited by Jerseygirl; May 26th 2009 at 2:22 pm.
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Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
Ian's response seemed a little frightening to me. If I remember correctly and I may be wrong] getting coverage shouldn't be a problem or that expensive if you can show that you have had continuous coverage under other medical coverage. Coming from the UK, I am pretty sure that the NHS qualifies.
As such, you should be able to get coverage to start immediately, but you may have to pay for it. It is likely if you are transfering with your husband that he works for a larger company, and they typically have coverage with the bigger health care places where most if not all conditions are covered if you can show continued coverage.
Ian is right though, you should have sufficient drugs available to weather you through any problems.
As such, you should be able to get coverage to start immediately, but you may have to pay for it. It is likely if you are transfering with your husband that he works for a larger company, and they typically have coverage with the bigger health care places where most if not all conditions are covered if you can show continued coverage.
Ian is right though, you should have sufficient drugs available to weather you through any problems.
Hayhay, focus on making sure your husband's company will allow you to be covered under their policy. Often, this will be at an additional cost, but it will be no where near as extravagant as a private policy. There may still be a waiting time til your condition will be covered (it could be up to a year) so take Ian's advice and make sure you have plenty of medication on hand. However, if you have proof of prior continuing medical coverage, such as the NHS, you may be able to waive this waiting period - so definitely ask the HR staff about PEC coverage for a spouse.
Even if you decide to work for another company, you shouldn't have a problem continuing on your husband's policy, if your job doesn't include health insurance (or you decide not to accept your employer's health insurance). But make sure you confirm this with your husband's employer as you don't want to catch yourself w/out health insurance coverage.
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Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
Edit - I found the link that mentions the NHS.
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Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
Ian's response should be frightening. It is very common that many people with a pre-existing, chronic condition will not ever be able to buy a private medical insurance policy. I, myself, am one of those people. Insurance companies can, and do, deny medical coverage to those with PEC's all the time.
Hayhay, focus on making sure your husband's company will allow you to be covered under their policy. Often, this will be at an additional cost, but it will be no where near as extravagant as a private policy. There may still be a waiting time til your condition will be covered (it could be up to a year) so take Ian's advice and make sure you have plenty of medication on hand. However, if you have proof of prior continuing medical coverage, such as the NHS, you may be able to waive this waiting period - so definitely ask the HR staff about PEC coverage for a spouse.
Even if you decide to work for another company, you shouldn't have a problem continuing on your husband's policy, if your job doesn't include health insurance (or you decide not to accept your employer's health insurance). But make sure you confirm this with your husband's employer as you don't want to catch yourself w/out health insurance coverage.
Hayhay, focus on making sure your husband's company will allow you to be covered under their policy. Often, this will be at an additional cost, but it will be no where near as extravagant as a private policy. There may still be a waiting time til your condition will be covered (it could be up to a year) so take Ian's advice and make sure you have plenty of medication on hand. However, if you have proof of prior continuing medical coverage, such as the NHS, you may be able to waive this waiting period - so definitely ask the HR staff about PEC coverage for a spouse.
Even if you decide to work for another company, you shouldn't have a problem continuing on your husband's policy, if your job doesn't include health insurance (or you decide not to accept your employer's health insurance). But make sure you confirm this with your husband's employer as you don't want to catch yourself w/out health insurance coverage.
#9
Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
Ian's response seemed a little frightening to me. If I remember correctly and I may be wrong] getting coverage shouldn't be a problem or that expensive if you can show that you have had continuous coverage under other medical coverage. Coming from the UK, I am pretty sure that the NHS qualifies.
As such, you should be able to get coverage to start immediately, but you may have to pay for it. It is likely if you are transfering with your husband that he works for a larger company, and they typically have coverage with the bigger health care places where most if not all conditions are covered if you can show continued coverage.
Ian is right though, you should have sufficient drugs available to weather you through any problems.
As such, you should be able to get coverage to start immediately, but you may have to pay for it. It is likely if you are transfering with your husband that he works for a larger company, and they typically have coverage with the bigger health care places where most if not all conditions are covered if you can show continued coverage.
Ian is right though, you should have sufficient drugs available to weather you through any problems.
It would be great if you could post a link to the support what you've said about the NHS because this has been discussed on here many times and I don't think we've ever been able to get a definite answer.
Edit: I've just received the following info...I hope this helps the OP.
The HIPAA final rule:
http://www.dol.gov/federalregister/P...px?DocId=10270
The rule was changed to specifically include foreign government plans such as the NHS. Also, it specifically says that a a certificate of creditable coverage is NOT required - just some reasonable proof (e.g. national insurance card, letter from doctor, etc.)
Search the document for the word "foreign" for applicable text.
Shorter version - here is a comment from Blue Cross/Blue Shield, which specifically mentions that the the law changed to include plans such as the NHS as creditable coverage.
http://www.bcbsil.com/PDF/legislative_update_405.pdf
FAQs address the fact that a doctor's letter or some such can suffice if a certificate of creditable cover is not available:
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_hipaa.html
I have gotten this to work with a private insurer, and also for another person, it was accepted by a state high risk pool.
I believe it used to be a problem, but now the law has changed. Sometimes one has to point out the law, as not all insurers are aware of it (the state high risk pool wasn't) - but they were glad to oblige once it was pointed out to them.
Edit: I've just received the following info...I hope this helps the OP.
The HIPAA final rule:
http://www.dol.gov/federalregister/P...px?DocId=10270
The rule was changed to specifically include foreign government plans such as the NHS. Also, it specifically says that a a certificate of creditable coverage is NOT required - just some reasonable proof (e.g. national insurance card, letter from doctor, etc.)
Search the document for the word "foreign" for applicable text.
Shorter version - here is a comment from Blue Cross/Blue Shield, which specifically mentions that the the law changed to include plans such as the NHS as creditable coverage.
http://www.bcbsil.com/PDF/legislative_update_405.pdf
FAQs address the fact that a doctor's letter or some such can suffice if a certificate of creditable cover is not available:
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_hipaa.html
I have gotten this to work with a private insurer, and also for another person, it was accepted by a state high risk pool.
I believe it used to be a problem, but now the law has changed. Sometimes one has to point out the law, as not all insurers are aware of it (the state high risk pool wasn't) - but they were glad to oblige once it was pointed out to them.
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Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
Hi all,
I'm new here, and hope I am posting in the right place!
My partner and I are probably going to move to New York City next year, due to his job - he is in a managerial position and they are opening an office in NYC, that they want him to transfer to. He will be applying for an L-1 Visa, and I, as his wife, will have to get an L-2 Visa and then apply for an EAD once there (we discussed my not working but I hate that idea! )
Anyway we are probably 90% decided and in favour of this decision - we are young (mid 20s) and currently live in London, but are both New Zealanders (been living here 3 years now). It seems like a great opportunity, and one that not many Kiwis get.
I do have some concerns - my main one is that I have a pre-existing, chronic medical condition. It is well controlled with medication, and it hasn't caused me to be sick in a long time, but I'm concerned about getting medical insurance with it (I will probably be covered by husband's insurance through work until I start working myself, one more thing to check with UK office!)
As said, I don't often actually get sick, but I do see my GP regularly for blood tests, prescriptions, etc.
I just was wondering if anyone had any advice or experience with this - is it possible to get insurance with a pre-existing condition?
I'm very sorry if this subject has been brought up before - had a good search of the forums but couldn't find anything pertinent to my case!
Thanks so much in advance!
I'm new here, and hope I am posting in the right place!
My partner and I are probably going to move to New York City next year, due to his job - he is in a managerial position and they are opening an office in NYC, that they want him to transfer to. He will be applying for an L-1 Visa, and I, as his wife, will have to get an L-2 Visa and then apply for an EAD once there (we discussed my not working but I hate that idea! )
Anyway we are probably 90% decided and in favour of this decision - we are young (mid 20s) and currently live in London, but are both New Zealanders (been living here 3 years now). It seems like a great opportunity, and one that not many Kiwis get.
I do have some concerns - my main one is that I have a pre-existing, chronic medical condition. It is well controlled with medication, and it hasn't caused me to be sick in a long time, but I'm concerned about getting medical insurance with it (I will probably be covered by husband's insurance through work until I start working myself, one more thing to check with UK office!)
As said, I don't often actually get sick, but I do see my GP regularly for blood tests, prescriptions, etc.
I just was wondering if anyone had any advice or experience with this - is it possible to get insurance with a pre-existing condition?
I'm very sorry if this subject has been brought up before - had a good search of the forums but couldn't find anything pertinent to my case!
Thanks so much in advance!
i live on long island (just east of NYC), my dad owns an insurance agency.. when you get here.. phone him (or you can from the uk). private message me if you are interested and ill give you his number.
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Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
me and the kids ( L2's) were simply covered with no questions asked by my husbands group policy. think we pay our contribution at about $250 a month.
#12
Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
The thing is we can't really answer specifically as to your situation because there are far too many variables. As part of the negotiation process, you should request to speak to the HR person in the new firm for information about the health care plan, and possibly even get some contact numbers to get more information about what is and what is covered under that policy.
Your husband will have a 'group' plan from the firm (you'll probably need the name of the insurance company, the type of plan they offer, and the group number). You can then speak to that company and get a definitive (well, more or less) answer before you sign up to move over.
It's not an unreasonable request to make to them if they have an offer--just a phone number to get some more info. I'd urge you to check that out wiki on health insurance for some basic information on how policies work in the US
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Health_Insurance
Your husband will have a 'group' plan from the firm (you'll probably need the name of the insurance company, the type of plan they offer, and the group number). You can then speak to that company and get a definitive (well, more or less) answer before you sign up to move over.
It's not an unreasonable request to make to them if they have an offer--just a phone number to get some more info. I'd urge you to check that out wiki on health insurance for some basic information on how policies work in the US
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Health_Insurance
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Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
I would have expected that the OP would be covered under the spouses insurance provided by his employer. If this is the case then it will be a group insurance policy and as such the insurers cannt deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.
If this is not the case there are various ways in which an individual can ensure coverage of pre-existing conditions.. this is a useful article
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/14...ref=newssearch
Once you start working you would probably not be obliged to terminate your insurance through your husband. For example my employer offers medical insurance but I am insured through my wifes plicy - the coverage is much better.
If this is not the case there are various ways in which an individual can ensure coverage of pre-existing conditions.. this is a useful article
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/14...ref=newssearch
Once you start working you would probably not be obliged to terminate your insurance through your husband. For example my employer offers medical insurance but I am insured through my wifes plicy - the coverage is much better.
Last edited by cpe111; Jun 1st 2009 at 7:02 pm.
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Re: Pre-existing, chronic medical condition, Insurance & NY state
Yes they can, not permanently but for up to 12 months (18 if you enroll late) if you have had no creditable coverage within the last 63 days. Even then you can only apply the number of days you had the creditable coverage towards the 12-18 months.