Bob

Don't know if it is still the case, but it was at 50 years of age, when I got mine.

Giantaxe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student...gdom#Repayment

kimilseung

That is why income inequality is the issue. Poverty concerns peoples (in)ability to interact with the culture around them.

jasper123

Welcome Lilly, your comment here in my opinion is thus far the most thought out and intelligent post since this particular thread started a few weeks ago,
It says it all really,
WELL DONE.
But for me having lived way over half my life in the U.S. for me the big thing that separates the poor in the U.K. from the poor in USA is quite simple,
in U.K. you can be the poorest human being there and without a hope in hell of improving your situation anytime soon ------- but you will always have a roof over your head, a nice full belly, ------ and most importantly access to health care if you get sick, the U.K. Government will always make sure everyone has these basic services without having to beg for them or humiliate yourself in any way, you see thats the big difference between the two countries, if you are a UK citizen or legal resident its your right!!!! and everyone is aware of this,
you are entitled to these things,

But in America the government has a few bull s--t programs to give a little help to some people if there eligible, mostly though with so much damn red tape garbage behind them and subjecting there people to huge lines and a mountain of paperwork and taking forever to make a decision, lots of folk just dont even want to go through all the B.S. to try and maybe get help,
The thing is in the States most of the help thats worth a damn comes from the many different charity organizations, ------ and most of the help from these people is only short time, or one time shot, and lots of people feel too embarrassed to even apply for this,

I have been reading all the posts on this thread since it began a few weeks ago, and a lot of people talk a lot of sense but a lot of others have there head stuck so far up there ass they will never be able to see common sense and the truth, and I have observed some on here showing off there college education in the feeble hope that they just happen to impress someone on here, well guess what you dont,

scrubbedexpat099

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17185294

Sheds with Beds are London's Modern Day Slums.

fatbrit

Presumably nothing basic though like confusing an adverb with a pronoun?

Mallory

There are a number of ways to get rid of college loan debt. I know someone's daughter who joined the police force in Pennsylvania. She gets paid while in training, and her college debt will be taken out of her pay in manageable payments. After a certain number of years of payments, (maybe 10, can't remember the details), the amount owed is then discharged. (This is because it is a public service job).

Other jobs - doctors, nurses, teachers, can apply. Of course there are certain restrictions, go to rural areas or poor areas to work, etc. But it can be done if you are motivated.

Giantaxe

"The Student Loan Crisis Is Crippling America's Families -- Is The Economy Next?"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sherylna...-economy-next/

SATX John

"Wikipedia is the devil's vomit" British Army Major in school with me a couple years ago. Great quote. Not fighting....

Ethelred_the_Unready

Don't knock it. I use it a lot, but generally as just a starting point to find other sources. Most decent Wikipedia articles are well cited, so it's useful for that at least. I seldom use the Wikipedia article itself as a source though. It'd be not much better than using another post as a source.

Giantaxe

Agreed. Well-cited wikipedia articles - like the one I cited - are very useful. Ones without citations are much more marginal.

Interestingly, wikipedia has done well in studies comparing its accuracy with traditional encyclopedias.

fatbrit

Major, eh? Presumably a captain's or lieutenant's verdict would not have held so much weight. So do enlighten us, what is your encyclopaedia of choice?

SATX John

I do not know, he was in the Royal Irish RGT at Command and General Staff College, so he must have something going on for HMG to send him to the US for two years to go to a US military school. His first year was followed by a second at the School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS) ie Jedi Knights in the venacular. Wiki it. We were class mates.

I agree on the source/ reference material, that would be where I would I go to.

Never cite Wikipedia, but their source when all else fails. I am a fan of Wiki BTW, great start point, not an academcia standard, anywhere.

Sally Redux

but it's the Devil's vomit.

SATX John

Touche

Although I was being sarcastic.