Pls help with 2 questions
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Pls help with 2 questions
Hi All,
I just signed up having spent the past few hours looking through the site. I am a US citizen (born in the UK to my USC dad) and lived in the states for 7 years for university but been in the uk the past 7 years. My wife and kids are uk born and citizens. We are seriosuly thinking about moving to NY next year. I know that its quite simple for me to get my kids to become citizens and I can see the process of getting my wife a visa but I have 2 questions,
1) Health insurance- from what I can tell from other people's posts, health insurance won't cover pre exsiting conditions within 6 months, is this true? I know that my UK health insurance requires 5 years - this is rly important for us to know.
2) Does anyone know of a London based law firm who can help with the mammoth amount of paperwork required to get my wife's application processed as well as the kids?
Thanks
Derrick
I just signed up having spent the past few hours looking through the site. I am a US citizen (born in the UK to my USC dad) and lived in the states for 7 years for university but been in the uk the past 7 years. My wife and kids are uk born and citizens. We are seriosuly thinking about moving to NY next year. I know that its quite simple for me to get my kids to become citizens and I can see the process of getting my wife a visa but I have 2 questions,
1) Health insurance- from what I can tell from other people's posts, health insurance won't cover pre exsiting conditions within 6 months, is this true? I know that my UK health insurance requires 5 years - this is rly important for us to know.
2) Does anyone know of a London based law firm who can help with the mammoth amount of paperwork required to get my wife's application processed as well as the kids?
Thanks
Derrick
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1) Health insurance- from what I can tell from other people's posts, health insurance won't cover pre exsiting conditions within 6 months, is this true? I know that my UK health insurance requires 5 years - this is rly important for us to know.
For group coverage, they may have a stipulation that they won't cover a pre-existing condition for the first 6months. However, IIRC, HIPAA laws say that if you have had credible insurance coverage within the previous 62 days, they will cover the pre-existing condtion. You should be able to use the NHS coverage as credible insurance so that you can use HIPAA laws to get the 6mo requirement waived. I'm not quite sure I'm explaining that very well, but if you do a search on here for HIPAA, you'll probably find some threads on the topic.
2) Does anyone know of a London based law firm who can help with the mammoth amount of paperwork required to get my wife's application processed as well as the kids?
If you really want to understand the process, take a read of the wiki here. The visa you need to look at is the CR-1/IR-1 Immigrant Spouse Visa. Many people here did it all themselves, so if you're good at details you can consider doing it all yourselves and saving those lawyer fees for your relocation.
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Thanks so much for your reply which really put things into great perspective for me!
Yikes about the private medical insurance possibly not covering any preexisting conditions. I have mild asthma and I don't reckon the medicine would be crazy for me to have to pay for but for the past 7 months my wife has had chronic migraines, although this has been treated by the NHS they dont know why she gets them so I don't know if this will count as pre existing.
Our move won;t be till next Spetmber so I guess I'll have to try my hardest to only go for jobs with insurance (but will they cover my family?) but if I can't find a job with insurance I couldbt move without some insurance for all of us (kids are 6,4 and 1 and always need to see the doc for something!)
Yikes about the private medical insurance possibly not covering any preexisting conditions. I have mild asthma and I don't reckon the medicine would be crazy for me to have to pay for but for the past 7 months my wife has had chronic migraines, although this has been treated by the NHS they dont know why she gets them so I don't know if this will count as pre existing.
Our move won;t be till next Spetmber so I guess I'll have to try my hardest to only go for jobs with insurance (but will they cover my family?) but if I can't find a job with insurance I couldbt move without some insurance for all of us (kids are 6,4 and 1 and always need to see the doc for something!)
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it looks like a consultation with a ny based insurance broker would be a good idea...
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WE moved here and our son has a pre-existing condition, but it's not currently requiring treatment. We were able to get insurance and have had no problems.
I think it really depends on the condition, why don't you try a company like seven corners to see what they say? They insured us for the first six months here. I do know that some Ashtma medications can be expensive.
Are you able to say what your and your wifes prescription meds are? Maybe then someone here could tell you whether they are the type you'd get on a cheap prescription or how much they would be monthly.
Any yes, I wouldn't move without a job that gives you insurance coverage, how much (if anything) you'll need to pay and whether they'll cover your family will vary depending on the employer I think.
What type of work are you looking at?
I think it really depends on the condition, why don't you try a company like seven corners to see what they say? They insured us for the first six months here. I do know that some Ashtma medications can be expensive.
Are you able to say what your and your wifes prescription meds are? Maybe then someone here could tell you whether they are the type you'd get on a cheap prescription or how much they would be monthly.
Any yes, I wouldn't move without a job that gives you insurance coverage, how much (if anything) you'll need to pay and whether they'll cover your family will vary depending on the employer I think.
What type of work are you looking at?
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Some group insurances will cover previous conditions from day one. Some will not. Also note that your UK medical records will not be available to insurance here unless you provide them to your insurance or your doctor.
Perhaps you only develop asthma after moving here?
Perhaps you only develop asthma after moving here?
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Another thing that you will need to do is to make sure that you are up to date with filing your US tax returns.
Once again you will find plenty of information on this site about how to go about doing that from the UK.
Once again you will find plenty of information on this site about how to go about doing that from the UK.
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You can try a broker but don't be sold on what they have to offer. Also try einsurance.com and read the wiki on health insurance processes
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Health_Insurance
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If it isn't an obvious statement, make sure you get copies of your full medical records, for all the family, before you leave. There will probably be a small fee involved but we found having them helped a lot.
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Some group insurances will cover previous conditions from day one. Some will not. Also note that your UK medical records will not be available to insurance here unless you provide them to your insurance or your doctor.
Perhaps you only develop asthma after moving here?
Perhaps you only develop asthma after moving here?
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Wow thanks everyone for the replies: To respond..
The Horticulturalist: My son and I are on ventolin for the asthma. My wife is on a coccktail of medicines for the migraines: Daily Amitriptyline, occasional sumatriptan and Zomag nasal spray.
As for what I do - its slightly complicated (!), I qualified last year as a child and adolescent counsellor/psychotherapist. In order to convert this qualification I am currently working with the NY Dept of Education and have submitted the paperwork and am awaiting their reply which shouldn't be problematic as my Masters was from University of London and the Registrar has told me they have gone through the process many times with no problems. So, once that goes through I will be the equivalent of a Licensed Mental Health Counselor. My wife is a stay at home mum (although from what we hear living in the US requires 2 incomes!) and hopes to study there.
Adobepinon - I was sure that they would check out pre exisitng conditions before we move, the asthma isnt my major concern, but could my wife "only" get the migraines once we move there which may make things simpler??
Penguinsix - Here in th UK i am part of a group insurance scheme independant of my work, actually through my insurance broker and its way cheaper than any other quote i got. Are there similar schemes in NY/NJ?
md95065- You raise a really important point about US tax returns - I moved to the UK 7 years ago and my last us tax return is probably from 6 years ago. Havent filed since. I now have a memory of when my parents moved to the States 11 years ago (after living in the UK for 20 something years) my USC Dad couldnt sponsor my mum because he hadnt filed his returns. Will this affect me sponsoring my wife to get a spouse visa!?! This is one of the reasons I thought I may need to speak to a UK based lawyer when applying for my wife as I'm worried about screwing things up for her. Also, its in about 14 months that we want to move but I'm hesitating starting the process for her (even though the sooner the better) because we're going to want to go to the states to check out neighbourhoods etc and I'm worried about her being allowed into the states while her application is pending.
celticgrid - I will get our medical record but will that be for us to hold onto, from what was said above it seems best for me to dislose as little as possible to insurance companies.. or not?
The Horticulturalist: My son and I are on ventolin for the asthma. My wife is on a coccktail of medicines for the migraines: Daily Amitriptyline, occasional sumatriptan and Zomag nasal spray.
As for what I do - its slightly complicated (!), I qualified last year as a child and adolescent counsellor/psychotherapist. In order to convert this qualification I am currently working with the NY Dept of Education and have submitted the paperwork and am awaiting their reply which shouldn't be problematic as my Masters was from University of London and the Registrar has told me they have gone through the process many times with no problems. So, once that goes through I will be the equivalent of a Licensed Mental Health Counselor. My wife is a stay at home mum (although from what we hear living in the US requires 2 incomes!) and hopes to study there.
Adobepinon - I was sure that they would check out pre exisitng conditions before we move, the asthma isnt my major concern, but could my wife "only" get the migraines once we move there which may make things simpler??
Penguinsix - Here in th UK i am part of a group insurance scheme independant of my work, actually through my insurance broker and its way cheaper than any other quote i got. Are there similar schemes in NY/NJ?
md95065- You raise a really important point about US tax returns - I moved to the UK 7 years ago and my last us tax return is probably from 6 years ago. Havent filed since. I now have a memory of when my parents moved to the States 11 years ago (after living in the UK for 20 something years) my USC Dad couldnt sponsor my mum because he hadnt filed his returns. Will this affect me sponsoring my wife to get a spouse visa!?! This is one of the reasons I thought I may need to speak to a UK based lawyer when applying for my wife as I'm worried about screwing things up for her. Also, its in about 14 months that we want to move but I'm hesitating starting the process for her (even though the sooner the better) because we're going to want to go to the states to check out neighbourhoods etc and I'm worried about her being allowed into the states while her application is pending.
celticgrid - I will get our medical record but will that be for us to hold onto, from what was said above it seems best for me to dislose as little as possible to insurance companies.. or not?
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*Its Zomig nasal spray..
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Kate2112- Yes, I'm thinking that'll cause far less headaches (pardon the pun!!)
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Medical records (medical EVERYTHING) seems to be a big issue from one angle or thirteen others over here. Should you ever need such copies, it'll be a right job to get them once you've moved over here, so bring with you.
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celticgrid - thanks for that. i'm now juggling on the one hand telling our GP next year that we're moving, getting the full medical records and saying goodbye to the NHS (yikes after reading the health insurance wiki!) or if I should just keep us registered at our GP so that my wife and son and I can at least get refills on prescriptions. A horrible catch 22