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Rajeev Tipnis Jun 2nd 2002 3:32 am

Photocopies of US certificate of naturalization
 
So, What is the official story on taking the photocopies of the US certficate of naturalization.

On my certificate, it says it is unlawful to do so.

However, I've heard that it is not unlawful anymore. We are applying for the green card of my mother in law and were wondering if we should or should not send the photocopies. If not the photocopies, if we should send in the originals?

Thanks in advance.

Riri Jun 2nd 2002 10:20 am

Re: Photocopies of US certificate of naturalization
 
For the N time. It is lawful for use with the INS but unlawful for ANY other
purposes, agencies or departments! In your case use a photocopy.

R "Rajeev Tipnis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > So, What is the official story on taking the photocopies of the US certficate of
    > naturalization.
    >
    > On my certificate, it says it is unlawful to do so.
    >
    > However, I've heard that it is not unlawful anymore. We are applying for the green
    > card of my mother in law and were wondering if we should or should not send the
    > photocopies. If not the photocopies, if we should send in the originals?
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Jesse Jun 3rd 2002 12:20 am

Re: Photocopies of US certificate of naturalization
 
I think it is just something they say (don't copy) so people don't make a habit of
making copies of it. However, it seems if the Government asks you to make a copy of
it, that's OK. The INS is not the only Government agency that says you can copy it
either. The State Department also tells you to copy it on their National Visa Center
page (http://travel.state.gov/nvc.html)

"When I filed a petition for my relative I was a legal permanent resident (green card
holder). I recently became a U.S. citizen. How can I upgrade the petition?

Please make a copy of your Naturalization Certificate. Send the copy - NOT the
original - to the National Visa Center with a letter containing the beneficiary name
and case number of the petition you want to upgrade. We will send the beneficiary any
additional forms and information that may be required."

Will soon find out if they want the original or a copy when filing for a
passport also.

On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:21:34 GMT, "RiRi" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >For the N time. It is lawful for use with the INS but unlawful for ANY other
    >purposes, agencies or departments! In your case use a photocopy.
    >
    >R "Rajeev Tipnis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> So, What is the official story on taking the photocopies of the US certficate of
    >> naturalization.
    >>
    >> On my certificate, it says it is unlawful to do so.
    >>
    >> However, I've heard that it is not unlawful anymore. We are applying for the green
    >> card of my mother in law and were wondering if we should or should not send the
    >> photocopies. If not the photocopies, if we should send in the originals?
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Riri Jun 3rd 2002 3:20 am

Re: Photocopies of US certificate of naturalization
 
"Jesse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I think it is just something they say (don't copy) so people don't make a habit of
    > making copies of it. However, it seems if the Government asks you to make a copy of
    > it, that's OK. The INS is not the only Government agency that says you can copy it
    > either. The State Department also tells you to copy it on their National Visa
    > Center page (http://travel.state.gov/nvc.html)

Yes in reference to a petition which is handled by the INS and not the NVC.

    >
    > "When I filed a petition for my relative I was a legal permanent resident (green
    > card holder). I recently became a U.S. citizen. How can I upgrade the petition?
    >
    > Please make a copy of your Naturalization Certificate. Send the copy - NOT the
    > original - to the National Visa Center with a letter containing the beneficiary
    > name and case number of the petition you want to upgrade. We will send the
    > beneficiary any additional forms and information that may be required."

See above!

    >
    > Will soon find out if they want the original or a copy when filing for a
    > passport also.

The State Dep wants the original. Clearly stated by a State Dep Officer upon Oath for
passport applications.

The point is that in order to photocopy the certificate you need authorization. INS
decided to give authorization for all INS purporses because they know that they will
lose it. Actually what they do is send all the docs to a filing/storage center and
to take it out of the mess it would take years (explanation given by an INS officer
upon Oath too)

R
    >
    > On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 07:21:34 GMT, "RiRi" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >For the N time. It is lawful for use with the INS but unlawful for ANY other
    > >purposes, agencies or departments! In your case use a photocopy.
    > >
    > >R "Rajeev Tipnis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]...
    > >> So, What is the official story on taking the photocopies of the US certficate of
    > >> naturalization.
    > >>
    > >> On my certificate, it says it is unlawful to do so.
    > >>
    > >> However, I've heard that it is not unlawful anymore. We are applying
for
    > >> the green card of my mother in law and were wondering if we should or should not
    > >> send the photocopies. If not the photocopies, if we should send in the
    > >> originals?
    > >>
    > >> Thanks in advance.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com


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