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Old Feb 5th 2006, 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Well there you go you see since we live in Florida where lethal force can be used in self defence then she's fine. Besides which an 11 year old girl defending herself against an adult male? No court in the world would find her guilty of anything.

Out of interest how would you go about defending yourself from say a rapist or mugger without attempting to permanently incapacitate them?

how about temporarily incapacitate them?...

my point wasn't that your daughter shouldn't know how to defend herself, my point definitely was that if you teach a child how to perform GBH are you also teching the child when and only when that teaching should be used.. In my experience children act before they think...
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how about temporarily incapacitate them?...

my point wasn't that your daughter shouldn't know how to defend herself, my point definitely was that if you teach a child how to perform GBH are you also teching the child when and only when that teaching should be used.. In my experience children act before they think...
Well thats like shooting to wound....it doesnt work. Anyone thats ever been involved in real self defence (not the crap thats taught to the public) knows that when its reached that level you cant play by any rules except 1: Get them before they get you. Anything less is too risky.

On top of those skills is the absolute knowledge that to use them in any situation other than justified self defence is unacceptable. I agree that children can be foohardy and act without thinking - as can adults - however well taught and disciplined means they are less likely to do so.

It is in my experience that people that really understand and know how to win a conflict rarely end up in one.
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Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
It is in my experience that people that really understand and know how to win a conflict rarely end up in one.
In my experience as a secutiry guard and bouncer for 3 years (18-21) there are LOTS of people who know how to inflict maximum damage when entering into a fight and not so many who know how to react to a well positioned knuckle.
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self defence and being able to incapacitate someone permanently are worlds apart.

in the UK you would be sued to high heaven....
In the states they give you a medal.
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Is it High Noon in here yet?
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In my experience as a secutiry guard and bouncer for 3 years (18-21) there are LOTS of people who know how to inflict maximum damage when entering into a fight and not so many who know how to react to a well positioned knuckle.

Good for you.
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I can just feel the love!
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Is it High Noon in here yet?
Dunno must be on the west coast.
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Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Dunno must be on the west coast.

Well I was hoping for Gary Cooper, quite honestly.
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Old Feb 5th 2006, 9:06 am
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Well rather than go for the kiddies.. I'm more the granny predator..
Amazing what a gumming can do for you ...
And of course you can always ensure they have a defibrillator
before the meet .. thats for me ..of course...
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got my maces at the ready...lol got one in every handbag, in my car, on my bike and just about everywhere, thankfully not had to use one yet and i just hope i act quick enough if the event occurred
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got my maces at the ready...lol got one in every handbag, in my car, on my bike and just about everywhere, thankfully not had to use one yet and i just hope i act quick enough if the event occurred
Or just lay back and think of Englands green and pleasant lands...
Or why not just break into song ..
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Or just lay back and think of Englands green and pleasant lands...
Or why not just break into song ..
What are you smoking Ray?
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Or just lay back and think of Englands green and pleasant lands...
Or why not just break into song ..
hmm that's not even funny
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Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
It is in my experience that people that really understand and know how to win a conflict rarely end up in one.
Agreed completely, but would add ..." and would end one before the other party knows the conflict had begun."
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