USAGypsies

So for starts, so you can work this out with me, there are 5 of us.
Me and DH. kids, 17, 4 and 1 year old.

Me and DH British born holding British Passports and Naturalized US cits.
17 year old British born, has British passport and automatically a US cit. from our Naturalization.
4 year old Born in America. Has American Passport.
1 year old Born in America. No Passport.

At first I thought I'd just go ahead and arrange it so that all 5 of us have both British Passports and US passports but is that really necessary?

If the 4 year old and 1 year old entered the UK on American Passports and stayed beyond the 3 months (which we would as we are moving back) would I just need to apply for their British Passports after we had arrived before the 3 months was up?

Isn't it a requirement that after you naturalize that you must have a US passport before you leave the US?

Thanks all

Rete

For the 17 year old it is very very necessary. The US Passport is her proof of US Citizenship. Get it now while you are in the US and before you head out of the US to live and work. Later in life she might have a problem getting the US Passport if you have not filed the N-600 for proof of her US citizenship.

As for the one year old, she needs a passport to travel. Get her one.

lansbury

There was a post some time ago about this subject. Worth searching to find it.

I believe the children went back on US passports but there were some hoops to jump through afterward.

Jerseygirl

There are threads about this in the MBTTUK forum...there's been one in the last month or so. It is much easier if you enter the UK as UK citizens...then you are entitled to NHS care, eduction etc as soon as you set foot on British soil. You do not need a current UK PP to enter the UK as a British citizen...but you should provide proof that you are ie UK birth certificate.

You can enter the UK using a US PP but you will be classed as a visitor and not a resident. You can sort it out later but from what I've read it's an awful lot of trouble...much better to enter as a Brit.

JAJ

EVERYONE needs a US passport.

Assuming you are all planning to remain in the US and you're ok with the idea of later on having to reapply for a British passport as a "first time" applicant, and entering the UK as a visitor, then you can let your British passports expire.

Bear in mind that a British passport can mean easier entry to some other countries, such as Brazil, so think carefully about letting passports expire.

Your 4 and 1 year old children should at least have British consular birth certificates and at least get first British passports.

Your 17 year old should use N-600 to get a citizenship certificate, as well as a US passport.

Rete

The expense is not required to get a N-600 if the child gets her passport. The passport is the proof that she will need to prove US citizenship.

Bluegrass Lass

Yes, but if the passport is lost, or is not renewed on time, having an additional piece of paper for proof of citizenship would be a good back-up plan.

Rete

In either of those cases she needs to once again file the same backup information as the first time around, i.e. birth certificate, parent's marriage certificate and mother's naturalization certificate.

Or spend the money to get the N-600 ($465).

meauxna

Don't forget Selective Service when the youngster turns 18.

USAGypsies

We are returning to the UK in 1 month. They won't turn 18 until next summer. If we are not living in the US or they don't move back until after 26 years old, we don't have to sign up for selective serice do we?

Ozzidoc

Yes. And file taxes.

meauxna

http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm
DUAL NATIONALS
Dual nationals of the U.S. and another country are required to register, regardless of where they live, because they are U.S. nationals.
See also Aliens and Dual Nationals - Liability for Service

As noted, all US citizens are required to report their worldwide income to the IRS. There are some good wiki entries here for you to reference.

fatbrit

Sign 'em up for SSS. Failure to register can make them ineligible for federal benefits should they later, for example, wish to study in the US.

JAJ

Obtaining all that "backup information" may not be easy 20+ years down the line, and even if it is, one would be without evidence of citizenship in the meantime.

It is imprudent to rely on passport alone as proof of citizenship, hence the need to get the N-600 process done.

JAJ

In that case your passport plans are simplified ... everyone needs a British passport plus a US passport!

But why on earth have you not obtained these for your younger children?? 1 month is probably not long enough to get one, given the hassles people experience from the British Embassy.

Selective Service is mandatory for all male US citizens (between 18-26) plus certain others. US citizens living in other countries must still register.