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Old Dec 3rd 2007, 3:09 am
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
I think it's just that website -- yes I know which one it is. Full of British Daily Mail readers worshiping Enoch Powell from Florida on E-2 visas as far as I can see.
Its not the website...its the word expat.s its banned from here...

Also your info as you well know is wrong....so I'll put it right...

Expat.svoice...is a young forum trying to get the word out about kids aging out at 21 in the USA...and having to go home alone..or their families having to give up everything they have built here and go home too......its for ALL visa's not just the E2...and its grown very fast in 2 short years....grown way faster than ever thought....we do have the interest of people who can help make change...but it could be a slow up hill ride...
We try to help people from all States with all problems not just FL...so if anyone has a problem with kids timing out anywhere in the USA we would to to hear from you...please PM me...your voice could help us...
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Old Dec 4th 2007, 4:47 pm
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Plus,iIt is a site which is very actively seeking change to the broken immigration system apart from obtaining an amendment to the CSPA as not all children are protected from aging out, it is also very concerned about the death of a visa holder and impact to dependents, being landlocked through wrong/bad advise and the need for a compassionate visa.
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Old Dec 5th 2007, 2:19 pm
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Plus,iIt is a site which is very actively seeking change to the broken immigration system apart from obtaining an amendment to the CSPA as not all children are protected from aging out, it is also very concerned about the death of a visa holder and impact to dependents, being landlocked through wrong/bad advise and the need for a compassionate visa.
Their goals are laudable; their methods are not. Before the "Tribute to Enoch" thread, there was the one where I made my last post...a tribute to a country singer having a rant about "illegal immigrants" who also sang:

This ain't no rag it's a flag
And we don't wear it on our heads

IMO, the site does more harm than it does good with these and other threads. Just being vocal is not enough if your message is totally lost in the this silly, racist garbage. It puts people of helping you.
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"This ain't no rag it's a flag
And we don't wear it on our heads"

I think that was Morrissey ??

threres nothing wrong with patriotism in my book.
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Old Dec 6th 2007, 1:37 am
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Originally Posted by callowman
"This ain't no rag it's a flag
And we don't wear it on our heads"

I think that was Morrissey ??

threres nothing wrong with patriotism in my book.
It was an idiot called Charlie Daniels.

Have no problem with patriotism but do have a big problem with racism. Also, there's more than a touch of irony that a site that purportedly stands up for immigrant rights seems to delight in throwing tributes to anti-immigrant racists. It does nothing for your cause.
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Old Dec 6th 2007, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by callowman
threres nothing wrong with patriotism in my book.
Hmm .... what's good about patriotism? I guess in it's purest form, it's OK, but it seems a short slippery slope to nationalism, and racism. Would Germany have elected H*tler if it weren't for his appeal to their patriotism?

I've lived in UK and US, and my girlfriend is from a third world country, and I've traveled far and wide. Supporting one country above others for any reason other than pure merit seems arbitrary and wrong.

Along with religion, I blame patriotism as one of the major causes of war and strife in the world. Whether an absence of religion, and an absence of regional allegiance, would improve things I can't say but I'd like to give it a try!

But I digress ...
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Old Dec 7th 2007, 12:54 pm
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I have no idea what some people have against a forum that is trying to keep families together...all I can say is thank you to the people who have taken the time to join over the last few days or ask about the site and what its trying to do...I'm very shocked that a few could be so petty...when there is no reason for it
We want to see an end to families being pulled apart....from people losing everything they own...I can't see that being a bad thing....
If nothing else the forum has given support to many people who would otherwise be facing trying times thinking they are on their own....
Any change will take time...will it happen because of a few people in a forum...I'm not sure....but it feels a lot better trying to do something ...then doing nothing...
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Old Dec 7th 2007, 12:58 pm
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I have no idea what some people have against a forum that is trying to keep families together...all I can say is thank you to the people who have taken the time to join over the last few days or ask about the site and what its trying to do...I'm very shocked that a few could be so petty...when there is no reason for it
We want to see an end to families being pulled apart....from people losing everything they own...I can't see that being a bad thing....
If nothing else the forum has given support to many people who would otherwise be facing trying times thinking they are on their own....
Any change will take time...will it happen because of a few people in a forum...I'm not sure....but it feels a lot better trying to do something ...then doing nothing...
The goals are laudable; that forum is not. How many more times do I have to write it!
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Originally Posted by robert76
hi folks


decision is made off to orlando in dec

in the process of organising a place. renting seems the way to go and from my initial enquires having no job/credit rating doesnt seem to be a problem providing your willing to commit to a year. looking at lake mary area anyone got any opinions etc? any good pint bars in that neck of the woods? i know its a long shot but anyone on here know if theres any local rogby clubs in the orlando area?

Not sure about rugby clubs, but several nice British bars in Orlando, which even cook fish & chips. Some nice chinese and indian places too. Take a helicopter ride, only costs $15 and gives you an birds eye view of the place. Kissimmee is only down the road too.
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I wouldn't piss on Florida if it were on fire.
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I wouldn't piss on Florida if it were on fire.
It will be on fire, usually around January or February. We had the same problem early this year, forest fires and stuff. Took months to put them all out. There was smoke in the air for quite a while. If you're in the area the fire department would like any help it can get
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I wouldn't piss on Florida if it were on fire.
Flamer.
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Old Dec 7th 2007, 3:07 pm
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It will be on fire, usually around January or February. We had the same problem early this year, forest fires and stuff. Took months to put them all out. There was smoke in the air for quite a while. If you're in the area the fire department would like any help it can get

The trees across from us went up in flames a few years ago....
I look out at the back of us and see miles and miles of pine trees...was hoping for more homes to be there by now...darn the housing bubble bust...if I want nature I'll go see see it...I don't want it on my doorstep going up in flames and flooding ...
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Old Dec 7th 2007, 4:03 pm
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Originally Posted by krizzy
I have no idea what some people have against a forum that is trying to keep families together...all I can say is thank you to the people who have taken the time to join over the last few days or ask about the site and what its trying to do...I'm very shocked that a few could be so petty...when there is no reason for it
We want to see an end to families being pulled apart....from people losing everything they own...I can't see that being a bad thing....
If nothing else the forum has given support to many people who would otherwise be facing trying times thinking they are on their own....
Any change will take time...will it happen because of a few people in a forum...I'm not sure....but it feels a lot better trying to do something ...then doing nothing...


Well said and yes a great shame some people are just trying to be unhelpful, catty or just plain bitchy these people do not have a clue cos if they did they would offer assistance to the committee instead

Just look at the victim support group, very brave people for sharing their immigration stories of being scammed out of thousands. Only a couple of weeks ago yet another so called Visa specialist was reported to the Bar Assn and police and as a result two more are behind bars. Can't wait for the Christmas party, seems about 60 are going

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