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Old Mar 3rd 2007, 1:40 am
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the future of america starts here.. hopefully not for all our sakes
fun to see some good british adverts. Ads here are so terrible makes me pine for british ones..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...uration%3Along
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the future of america starts here.. hopefully not for all our sakes
fun to see some good british adverts. Ads here are so terrible makes me pine for british ones..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...uration%3Along
who gives a shit ...are you coming out to get drunk tonight nobhead..9 o'clock
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who gives a shit ...are you coming out to get drunk tonight nobhead..9 o'clock
leaving work now..
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who gives a shit ...are you coming out to get drunk tonight nobhead..9 o'clock
That could have been said by any one of my friends from Manchester. I feel kind of homesick now. Or is that the vodka? We'll never know!!
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this is one very scary documentary
Yeah, crap picture quality and too long. Can someone summarise it for me?
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crap picture quality? err not really, looks perfect here on my 24" monitor.. maybe there is a problem with your net connection. It's a channel 4 documentary about a university built near Washington where the kids are almost all home schooled from a far right wing christian background. Their parents kept them completely isolated from the outside world and the university allows that to continue. The university is the largest supplier of interns to the white house and their sole aim is to get as many extreme christian far right students into government as possible.The students spend all day debating, learning creationism and singing to jesus. Its not the religion per se that is scary its just the total detachment from the real world around them, their utter lack of knowledge of the outside world and that they are being groomed for government.

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Yeah, crap picture quality and too long. Can someone summarise it for me?
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I attended one of these 'evangelical' christian churches lately to see what it was all about and to keep the mother in law happy.

I am not a christian at all and don't have much time for religeon. But, I couldn't help thinking that, were Jesus alive today, he would have been far from happy by this cringeworthy display of middle class (mostly) white americans, getting down to a crappy band, with crappy lyrics and big screens advertising past sermons on DVD for 20 bucks a pop.

I couldn't really believe they (the 'pastors') were in it for anything other than money. Okay, I am a cynic and I don't know much about church but I am sure you are not supposed to have fun. You are supposed to be bored, cold and slightly afraid. And hungover. These people were far to awake for my liking at that time on a sunday morning.
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Thanks for sharing this link. I found it absolute *****ing terrifying! These kids are brainwashed! It's so insidious and premeditated that it just defies belief! How can anyone actually believe this bullcrap?
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Thanks for sharing this link. I found it absolute *****ing terrifying! These kids are brainwashed! It's so insidious and premeditated that it just defies belief! How can anyone actually believe this bullcrap?

Well, to be fair, everyone has the right to believe what they want. This kind of thing smacks of radicalism but at if that is your bag then so be it. To me it is the on a par with islamic mentalism (is that is a real word ha ha) but I would not deny a persons right to their belief, brainwashed or otherwise.
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The university is the largest supplier of interns to the white house and their sole aim is to get as many extreme christian far right students into government as possible.
...in 2004, 7 out of 100 interns in the White House were from the college, mostly employed by John Ashcroft, the then AJ (his wife was on the Board of Trustees). He's out of office now. I'm not sure I'd call them "the largest supplier" of interns.

I think some perspective might be a good idea. This is an unaccredited school with a grand total of 325 students. Even Christian accredation organizations have not certified this school. A third of its faculty (a grand total of 16 "professors) quit last year. It's definitely seen as extremely controversial in the US, even among most Christian organizations. It's completely ridiculous to present this "College" as a mainstream institution of higher learning.

IMO, this is yet another example of the British media spinning a fringe organization into some sort of larger theme of America. The British media love to lavish completely disproportionate attention on people or groups that are dismissed as kooks here in the US because they confirm their own stereotypes. I'm not saying radical fundie Chrisitan home-schooled kids don't exist but there are people doing weird things all over the world...
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...in 2004, 7 out of 100 interns in the White House were from the college, mostly employed by John Ashcroft, the then AJ (his wife was on the Board of Trustees). He's out of office now. I'm not sure I'd call them "the largest supplier" of interns.

I think some perspective might be a good idea. This is an unaccredited school with a grand total of 325 students. Even Christian accredation organizations have not certified this school. A third of its faculty (a grand total of 16 "professors) quit last year. It's definitely seen as extremely controversial in the US, even among most Christian organizations. It's completely ridiculous to present this "College" as a mainstream institution of higher learning.

IMO, this is yet another example of the British media spinning a fringe organization into some sort of larger theme of America. The British media love to lavish completely disproportionate attention on people or groups that are dismissed as kooks here in the US because they confirm their own stereotypes. I'm not saying radical fundie Chrisitan home-schooled kids don't exist but there are people doing weird things all over the world...
7 from one place seems high to me. Especially when there are only 325 students there altogether.

Ever seen the documentary film "Jesus Camp" - you won't be able to dismiss that as British media hype. I'm not saying you're completely wrong in your points but I don't think the problem is limited to just the one college, it is a cultural US thing.
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Well, to be fair, everyone has the right to believe what they want. This kind of thing smacks of radicalism but at if that is your bag then so be it. To me it is the on a par with islamic mentalism (is that is a real word ha ha) but I would not deny a persons right to their belief, brainwashed or otherwise.
When their radical beliefs start to infringe on my personal rights then I do challenge their beliefs. I think they are breeding dangerous people, and if we underestimate the fanatacism and the insidiousness of this then we will regret it. Those type of people are a very real threat to my way of life and my choice of family and disguising it under the facade of religion is deceitful and frightening. They are barely children still, despite being 18 years old. One of them had never even been on a train before, and was blindly spouting all sorts of bible crap as if he'd been brainwashed. I don't think they even truly understand many of the concepts of politics or how it fits into the real world, and they are being used as puppets for the fundamentalist right's agenda.

When those brainwashed bible bashers start working for the government and start changing the constitution to serve themselves and trying to take away my rights, then I will get very verbal about it.
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IMO, this is yet another example of the British media spinning a fringe organization into some sort of larger theme of America. The British media love to lavish completely disproportionate attention on people or groups that are dismissed as kooks here in the US because they confirm their own stereotypes. I'm not saying radical fundie Chrisitan home-schooled kids don't exist but there are people doing weird things all over the world...

So you don't think that religion has become completely out of control in America then? You don't think that religion has such a huge impact that the main reason we have the government we do is because of the Christian Right? It seems to me that it takes the British to point out a rather worrying threat looming in the future, because Americans are too obsessed with religion to recognize it as a problem themselves.
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...in 2004, 7 out of 100 interns in the White House were from the college, mostly employed by John Ashcroft, the then AJ (his wife was on the Board of Trustees). He's out of office now. I'm not sure I'd call them "the largest supplier" of interns.

I think some perspective might be a good idea. This is an unaccredited school with a grand total of 325 students. Even Christian accredation organizations have not certified this school. A third of its faculty (a grand total of 16 "professors) quit last year. It's definitely seen as extremely controversial in the US, even among most Christian organizations. It's completely ridiculous to present this "College" as a mainstream institution of higher learning.

IMO, this is yet another example of the British media spinning a fringe organization into some sort of larger theme of America. The British media love to lavish completely disproportionate attention on people or groups that are dismissed as kooks here in the US because they confirm their own stereotypes. I'm not saying radical fundie Chrisitan home-schooled kids don't exist but there are people doing weird things all over the world...
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I am a Christian (and British!). The Christians I know (including myself) are not right wing extremists hoping to take over the world in some sinister plot. We are just ordinary people trying to help in the community in which we live and to spread a little compassion and tolerance. What many of these so called Christians forget is that Christ warned us about judging others and that's all they seem to do! The media do seem to take a segment of a particular group (whether it be wacky Christians, gay people being overtly sexual and on drugs, muslims with machine guns wanting to kill nice, suburban westerners, immigrants who are criminals, single mothers draining the welfare system...the stereotypes go on and on and on) and blow it out of proportion. Yes, these people are a concern, but please do not judge everyone by what a minority does.
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