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kimilseung Apr 9th 2012 7:19 pm
Re: Noncitizens sue federal government over gay marriage ban
 
Originally Posted by tinman0 (Post 9995578)
I think you are some what out of touch with Christian teaching. How can you marry a same sex partner in the eyes of God when the Bible is specifically against homosexuality?
Maybe you are out of touch too. Jesus, without whom there would be no Christianity said nothing, in the words attributed to him, concerning homosexuality.

Cape Blue Apr 9th 2012 10:21 pm
Re: Noncitizens sue federal government over gay marriage ban
 
Originally Posted by tinman0 (Post 9995578)
I think you are some what out of touch with Christian teaching. How can you marry a same sex partner in the eyes of God when the Bible is specifically against homosexuality?

I agree that it should be up to the church in question to choose, but the UK is a monster nanny state where Government officials and politicians know best. Heaven forbid someone thinks for themselves.
Should it though? Should we allow institutions to decide if they discriminate or not? Doesn't seem a lot different than allowing restaurants to not serve black people.

Giantaxe Apr 9th 2012 11:53 pm
Re: Noncitizens sue federal government over gay marriage ban
 
Originally Posted by WEBlue (Post 9995538)
Seems crazy that an American can 'marry' a foreigner in some US states, but that that foreigner can't be sponsored for a spouse visa because of gender. Would you want a child of yours to marry a foreigner, then have to leave the country because the spouse couldn't live in the US?
It's a mess. Married gay couples can file state taxes as married (assuming they live in the state they got married in or another state that recognizes gay marriage) but can't if they have moved to a state that doesn't recognize gay marriage. Not sure what happens if they want to get divorced after such a move! And, of course, they can't file federal taxes as married, nor derive any other benefit of marriage that comes from federal law, including, of course, immigration law.

WEBlue Apr 11th 2012 1:47 am
Re: Noncitizens sue federal government over gay marriage ban
 
Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 9997132)
It's a mess. Married gay couples can file state taxes as married (assuming they live in the state they got married in or another state that recognizes gay marriage) but can't if they have moved to a state that doesn't recognize gay marriage. Not sure what happens if they want to get divorced after such a move! And, of course, they can't file federal taxes as married, nor derive any other benefit of marriage that comes from federal law, including, of course, immigration law.
It's an utter scandal. :frown: Americans should be ashamed, but of course they're not . . . .


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