Non Resident Alien and the FATCA rulings
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But the assets relate to a mortgage so this is slightly different than having wads of cash stashed away in an offshore, which unfortunately I don't have, right?
What if you are already paying tax on those assets in another country, which I am? Surely I am not going to be taxed by the US government as well on a relatively small mortgage.
I know I have to declare income from the property rent (which is basically zero) which I will do when the time comes to file but I am confused about whether I have to pay tax on it here or not.
What if you are already paying tax on those assets in another country, which I am? Surely I am not going to be taxed by the US government as well on a relatively small mortgage.
I know I have to declare income from the property rent (which is basically zero) which I will do when the time comes to file but I am confused about whether I have to pay tax on it here or not.
Comparison of Form 8938 and FBAR Requirements
However income from that asset needs to be reported and you are liable for any taxes due but taxes owed can be offset by any foreign income taxes paid. If your income from the asset is zero, you will likely have no US tax liability and may possibly even have a reduction in US taxes owed (possible loss and a certain portion of losses can be written off against normal income) since you can depreciate the property, write of mortgage interest, and expenses. Therefore the income after expenses from rent can be different in the US as compared to a foreign country since what is considered as write offs may be different between the countries
Just because you paid foreign income taxes on foreign income does not necessarily mean that you don't owe US taxes on that income since taxes are based on worldwide income (the UK and most other developed countries have a similar law for residents). If that was allowed then everyone would have investments in multiple countries (tax avoidance loophole) with each being taxed at a lower marginal rate than the marginal rate then if the investment was invested in the US. For example, if someone had investment income of $20,000 from 100 different countries, the effective foreign tax rate may possibly be less than 10% but $2 million of investment income from investments in the US would likely have a higher effective tax rate.
However even though UK residents also pay taxes on worldwide income, it doesn't have something similar to FATCA reporting from financial institutions from other countries and currently has the largest amount of money in Swiss banks accounts and suspect that most of it is for tax evasion purposes (India used to be the highest but suspect they moved their money to other tax havens due to leaks in the Swiss banking system).
Last edited by Michael; Sep 26th 2014 at 1:39 am.
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Re: Non Resident Alien and the FATCA rulings
How would your wife answer the following questions when opening a new financial account in the UK?
What is your place of birth?
List all your nationalities.
List all jurisdictions where you are subject to tax reporting.
It would be unfair to say "all" financial institution in the UK are asking these questions today (no one knows for sure) but it seems most are. I have UK friends who have no ties in any way to the US who have been asked these questions.
This thread came up today on the UK Yankee site in relation to an application for a cashback credit card.
Denial of banking services, FATCA?
What is your place of birth?
List all your nationalities.
List all jurisdictions where you are subject to tax reporting.
It would be unfair to say "all" financial institution in the UK are asking these questions today (no one knows for sure) but it seems most are. I have UK friends who have no ties in any way to the US who have been asked these questions.
This thread came up today on the UK Yankee site in relation to an application for a cashback credit card.
Denial of banking services, FATCA?
re that thread; who knows why they were turned down. To suggest its FATCA is a little ott imo.
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Re: Non Resident Alien and the FATCA rulings
Re that thread, it's possible it's not FATCA related. If you read the 1st post you do find they were asked the 3 questions on an application for a credit card.
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I'm sure you're aware of others.
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There are other notable Brits with a US tie from a parent; writer and journalist Will Self and documentary maker Louis Theroux for example. Prominent Americans permanently resident in the UK include Bonnie Greer (who became a British Citizen), Ruby Wax, Bill Bryson, Lisa Marie Presley, and Lloyd Grossman. Then there's Peaches Golding, the Sheriff of Bristol.
I'm sure you're aware of others.
I'm sure you're aware of others.
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BBC News - Who, What, Why: Could Boris Johnson be UK PM and then US president?
What will the 'birthers' make of this?