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GoldFinger Apr 3rd 2008 11:26 pm

No work references. help!
 
Need some quick advice.
I'm embarking on a new career path and applying for jobs but some of them are asking me for at least 3 references pertaining to the job I want to do now.

Problem is, I don't have any yet, so what do I do?

With my last and longest job here the boss fired all 5 of her staff for not bowing to her psycho crap (thank you menopause) and she refuses to give any of us a reference or reply to calls or emails.

When I get my next job would it be cheeky to ask the boss for a reference letter say after a few months working there instead of waiting until you leave?

chicagojlo Apr 3rd 2008 11:29 pm

Re: No work references. help!
 
Was there no HR dept where you used to work? A former colleague who had sufficient seniority to be able to give you some kind of reference? It doesn't have to be your direct manager if you can't get something from them.

Bob Apr 3rd 2008 11:40 pm

Re: No work references. help!
 
reference would be just to state position and times of employment, they really can't refuse that, so just give employer the contact details and let them have the fun :D

lapin_windstar Apr 3rd 2008 11:52 pm

Re: No work references. help!
 

Originally Posted by GoldFinger (Post 6155827)
When I get my next job would it be cheeky to ask the boss for a reference letter say after a few months working there instead of waiting until you leave?

Yes, a bit! In any case, a psycho boss won't give you that, and a normal boss wouldn't refuse to give you one after you left.

Kaffy Mintcake Apr 4th 2008 2:18 am

Re: No work references. help!
 

Originally Posted by GoldFinger (Post 6155827)
Need some quick advice.
I'm embarking on a new career path and applying for jobs but some of them are asking me for at least 3 references pertaining to the job I want to do now.

Problem is, I don't have any yet, so what do I do?

With my last and longest job here the boss fired all 5 of her staff for not bowing to her psycho crap (thank you menopause) and she refuses to give any of us a reference or reply to calls or emails.

When I get my next job would it be cheeky to ask the boss for a reference letter say after a few months working there instead of waiting until you leave?

Get a character reference from someone if nothing else. Could be a professor, friend, etc. The higher the title they hold, the better.

augigi Apr 4th 2008 2:41 am

Re: No work references. help!
 
Agree with Bob.

GoldFinger Apr 4th 2008 2:53 am

Re: No work references. help!
 
No, there was no HR dept. The boss was also the owner of the company and she 'ruled' over us like the (solo) Mob.

... just give employer the contact details and let them have the fun
They want actual letters though, not addresses.

Get a character reference from someone if nothing else. Could be a professor, friend, etc. The higher the title they hold, the better.

That's an idea. I'll try it.
Thanks all.

augigi Apr 4th 2008 4:22 am

Re: No work references. help!
 
Unusual for a US firm to want written references - every US company that I know of won't supply them, so it's weird that they ask for them. YOu could try saying it's against company policy to give them out.

GoldFinger Apr 4th 2008 4:38 am

Re: No work references. help!
 

Originally Posted by augigi (Post 6156685)
Unusual for a US firm to want written references - every US company that I know of won't supply them, so it's weird that they ask for them. YOu could try saying it's against company policy to give them out.

That's even better.

veryfunny Apr 4th 2008 6:18 am

Re: No work references. help!
 
You don't always need a reference at least in my first job over here I never needed one. It all depends on the job and your experience. Don't lose hope there are ways around this.

What about old work colleagues? even old friends? or people who have known you for a long time?



Originally Posted by GoldFinger (Post 6155827)
Need some quick advice.
I'm embarking on a new career path and applying for jobs but some of them are asking me for at least 3 references pertaining to the job I want to do now.

Problem is, I don't have any yet, so what do I do?

With my last and longest job here the boss fired all 5 of her staff for not bowing to her psycho crap (thank you menopause) and she refuses to give any of us a reference or reply to calls or emails.

When I get my next job would it be cheeky to ask the boss for a reference letter say after a few months working there instead of waiting until you leave?


sime303 Apr 4th 2008 6:57 am

Re: No work references. help!
 

Originally Posted by veryfunny (Post 6156979)
You don't always need a reference at least in my first job over here I never needed one. It all depends on the job and your experience. Don't lose hope there are ways around this.

What about old work colleagues? even old friends? or people who have known you for a long time?

My first and only company I have worked for in the US wanted to talk to my old employer back in the UK and when they tried to contact my old boss the bugger was in the lake district for 2 weeks. They finally got a hold of him and I guess he said the right things as I did get the job.

Patrick Hasler Apr 5th 2008 2:47 am

Re: No work references. help!
 

Originally Posted by GoldFinger (Post 6155827)
Need some quick advice.
I'm embarking on a new career path and applying for jobs but some of them are asking me for at least 3 references pertaining to the job I want to do now.

Problem is, I don't have any yet, so what do I do?

With my last and longest job here the boss fired all 5 of her staff for not bowing to her psycho crap (thank you menopause) and she refuses to give any of us a reference or reply to calls or emails.

When I get my next job would it be cheeky to ask the boss for a reference letter say after a few months working there instead of waiting until you leave?


Just make everything up ... they will believe you ;)

I find Americans believe everything I tell them, after all ... i am English ! I would never lie :rofl::rofl:

Some people at Yonkers believe that Princess Di was my niece :rofl: ... HMM now who told them that :confused::rofl:

veryfunny Apr 8th 2008 6:50 am

Re: No work references. help!
 
:thumbsup:

Now your next job, once you start your new job is to start building a network of contacts.




Originally Posted by sime303 (Post 6157039)
My first and only company I have worked for in the US wanted to talk to my old employer back in the UK and when they tried to contact my old boss the bugger was in the lake district for 2 weeks. They finally got a hold of him and I guess he said the right things as I did get the job.


surly Apr 8th 2008 8:20 am

Re: No work references. help!
 

Originally Posted by GoldFinger (Post 6155827)
Need some quick advice.
I'm embarking on a new career path and applying for jobs but some of them are asking me for at least 3 references pertaining to the job I want to do now.

Problem is, I don't have any yet, so what do I do?

With my last and longest job here the boss fired all 5 of her staff for not bowing to her psycho crap (thank you menopause) and she refuses to give any of us a reference or reply to calls or emails.

When I get my next job would it be cheeky to ask the boss for a reference letter say after a few months working there instead of waiting until you leave?

It's pretty standard procedure for companies not to give references here. Just to confirm you worked there and what position you held.

GoldFinger Apr 10th 2008 2:16 am

Re: No work references. help!
 
So...I basically did what NYC-ites are known for. Talking bull****.

Boss: Did you bring your 3 references with you?
Me: I don't need references, I'm that good;). (boasty and lengthy to that effect)
I was offered the job after 5 minutes and then same day a better job called me for an interview out of the blue and I accepted their offer instead.

All this references stuff is time wasting.


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