No taxation without representation
#16
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by Ben
Which ones? Even the school elections have the stipulation that you have to be a USC in order to vote.
I do believe that you should be allowed to vote in local things that influence the local area. And the only stipulation should be that you reside and pay property taxes/rent that pays the property taxes in the area.
I do believe that you should be allowed to vote in local things that influence the local area. And the only stipulation should be that you reside and pay property taxes/rent that pays the property taxes in the area.
#17
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by TRPardoe
As my neighborhoods are now inundated with temporary signs advertising various unknown persons who are candidates for everything from State Governor, through Judge, to School Board Member.............
...............It strikes me that this country started out on it's road to independence with the phrase "No taxation without representation".
Who amongst us thinks that those of us who:
A: have a Green Card
B: pay our taxes
C: do not break the law
Should also have the vote here ?
and no, I am not joking.
Maybe this deserves a Poll and perhaps a Petition ?
...............It strikes me that this country started out on it's road to independence with the phrase "No taxation without representation".
Who amongst us thinks that those of us who:
A: have a Green Card
B: pay our taxes
C: do not break the law
Should also have the vote here ?
and no, I am not joking.
Maybe this deserves a Poll and perhaps a Petition ?
Why do you stop at GC, why not any of the temp work permits, they pay taxes too.
It's very simple, we don't want a bunch of foreigners, who may not have our interests at heart, to change our political direction.
Having said that, if more of you will vote against the Republicans than not, I might change my mind
#18
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Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by TRPardoe
As my neighborhoods are now inundated with temporary signs advertising various unknown persons who are candidates for everything from State Governor, through Judge, to School Board Member.............
...............It strikes me that this country started out on it's road to independence with the phrase "No taxation without representation".
Who amongst us thinks that those of us who:
A: have a Green Card
B: pay our taxes
C: do not break the law
Should also have the vote here ?
and no, I am not joking.
Maybe this deserves a Poll and perhaps a Petition ?
...............It strikes me that this country started out on it's road to independence with the phrase "No taxation without representation".
Who amongst us thinks that those of us who:
A: have a Green Card
B: pay our taxes
C: do not break the law
Should also have the vote here ?
and no, I am not joking.
Maybe this deserves a Poll and perhaps a Petition ?
#19
Re: No taxation without representation
Could vote for local things in Maine as a GC....but for shite things like school boards and other random local stuff, and maybe for govnor, but nothing more fun than that
#20
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by carolf
... people who are here on Green Cards have no real stake in this country.
#21
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Re: No taxation without representation
I'm happy with my GC, and no vote is a fair swap for no jury duty
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Re: No taxation without representation
I believe in all seriousness that now the American cultural and financial empire covers the entire globe and that what happens in Washington affects everyone in the world, from environmental leglislation or rather lack of, free trade agreements or rather the hypocritical self interest bullying that passes for free trade by the US, etc. etc. the whole world should get a say in how they are goverened by the US. I think anyone in the world should be able to vote in the US elections. They affect our lives, our countries and indeed they seem to feel happy to simply kidnap and take our citizens from wherever and whenever they like and incacerate them in illegal gaols... the least we should be able to do is vote in the US elections! The american empire is no different in many ways to the british or roman empires before it, whilst I don't know if the british were able to vote in roman elections or whatever they had I think we should be afforded that right today.
call me crazy but I sincerely believe this!
call me crazy but I sincerely believe this!
Originally Posted by Chorlton
I'm happy with my GC, and no vote is a fair swap for no jury duty
#23
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by carolf
Definitely NOT. Only U.S. Citizens should have the right to decide on America's future, people who are here on Green Cards have no real stake in this country.
My wife is here, my home is here, and my job is here.
How dare you suggest that I have no real stake in this country?
#24
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by Chorlton
I'm happy with my GC, and no vote is a fair swap for no jury duty
#25
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by carolf
people who are here on Green Cards have no real stake in this country.
permanent resident.
PERMANENT
PERMANENT
look it up www.dictionary.com
#26
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,750
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Not only can you be called for jury duty...you can be called to fight for the US should the military request it.
They can kiss my ass when/if they try to draft me.
I'm here because of my wife. I pay my way and don't give the US any trouble, and I expect the same in return.
#27
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,750
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by Manc
The guy's got a pretty good point there.
#28
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by Chorlton
I dont think a non-USC can be called for jury duty - are you sure?
They can kiss my ass when/if they try to draft me.
I'm here because of my wife. I pay my way and don't give the US any trouble, and I expect the same in return.
They can kiss my ass when/if they try to draft me.
I'm here because of my wife. I pay my way and don't give the US any trouble, and I expect the same in return.
They can call you for jury duty -- but you can't go and sit!
On the draft crap, you can obey it or leave the country if called up. If you leave, you enjoy a permenant bar from re-entry as their gift to you.
#29
Re: No taxation without representation
So because you are a permanent resident, you say should be allowed to vote. Where do we stop, should any foreigner who pays taxes, have the right to vote? Should you be allowed to stand for office? Congress or the Senate? Perhaps we should change the constitution to allow you (and I) to become President.
No. Your GC got you the right to stay here permanently, but there is the final step needed to get the final rights available to you. You can then stand for just about any office except President.
Perhaps some who want to vote without citizenship here, would sing a different song if they were still in the UK and someone demanded voting rights for all of the non-citizens there.
No. Your GC got you the right to stay here permanently, but there is the final step needed to get the final rights available to you. You can then stand for just about any office except President.
Perhaps some who want to vote without citizenship here, would sing a different song if they were still in the UK and someone demanded voting rights for all of the non-citizens there.
#30
Re: No taxation without representation
Originally Posted by paddingtongreen
So because you are a permanent resident, you say should be allowed to vote. Where do we stop, should any foreigner who pays taxes, have the right to vote? Should you be allowed to stand for office? Congress or the Senate? Perhaps we should change the constitution to allow you (and I) to become President.
No. Your GC got you the right to stay here permanently, but there is the final step needed to get the final rights available to you. You can then stand for just about any office except President.
Perhaps some who want to vote without citizenship here, would sing a different song if they were still in the UK and someone demanded voting rights for all of the non-citizens there.
No. Your GC got you the right to stay here permanently, but there is the final step needed to get the final rights available to you. You can then stand for just about any office except President.
Perhaps some who want to vote without citizenship here, would sing a different song if they were still in the UK and someone demanded voting rights for all of the non-citizens there.
Perhaps someone else here knows the facts ?
Last edited by TRPardoe; Aug 21st 2006 at 7:29 pm. Reason: Grammar & typographical errors