No more immigration - Enough is Enough!
Aug 13th 2003, 6:03 pm
#46
Oxymath and eremite
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Wanker's Corner, Oregon.
Posts: 255
Originally posted by dunroving
- Is that something to do with how they make fish and chips in the States?
- Is that something to do with how they make fish and chips in the States?
Aug 14th 2003, 1:22 am
#47
Forum Regular
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 89
Originally posted by Patrick
Not until you posted
Not until you posted
Pathetic prat!
If you got something to say, say it, if not save us the bandwidth pal
Aug 14th 2003, 1:51 am
#48
Ironmonger
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 33
Ah is it election-time already??
That's the time when we find out that all our problems are caused by foreigners.
More unemployment? Not the fault of the companies who have fired their American employees and relocated. No, it's "them immigrants!".
More taxes? Not the fault of the idiot in the White House (or more likely somewhere on a ranch in Texas), who made a $4 trillion surplus disappear. No, it's "them immigrants!".
A ridiculous stance to take for a country that was founded by immigrants and projects is "multiethnicity" worldwide.
A country that consumes more than it produces, as the US does, depends on foreign investment. Immigrants coming to the country usually work harder than Americans and are, more often than not, middle-class, tax-paying Americans in one generation of arriving there.
Americans should perhaps try and work as hard as the immigrants who arrive there.
Another thought: Why is this government so concerned to spend billions upon billions of dollars to first attack and then "reconstruct" a nation in the Middle East, when there is so much that is "broken" here?
Our problems are not imported with immigrants. They are very much American home grown.
That's the time when we find out that all our problems are caused by foreigners.
More unemployment? Not the fault of the companies who have fired their American employees and relocated. No, it's "them immigrants!".
More taxes? Not the fault of the idiot in the White House (or more likely somewhere on a ranch in Texas), who made a $4 trillion surplus disappear. No, it's "them immigrants!".
A ridiculous stance to take for a country that was founded by immigrants and projects is "multiethnicity" worldwide.
A country that consumes more than it produces, as the US does, depends on foreign investment. Immigrants coming to the country usually work harder than Americans and are, more often than not, middle-class, tax-paying Americans in one generation of arriving there.
Americans should perhaps try and work as hard as the immigrants who arrive there.
Another thought: Why is this government so concerned to spend billions upon billions of dollars to first attack and then "reconstruct" a nation in the Middle East, when there is so much that is "broken" here?
Our problems are not imported with immigrants. They are very much American home grown.
Aug 14th 2003, 1:56 am
#49
Forum Regular
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 89
Originally posted by Oms
Ah is it election-time already?? That's the time when we find out that all our problems are caused by foreigners.
Ah is it election-time already?? That's the time when we find out that all our problems are caused by foreigners.
Recession = blame the immigrants.
Election + Recession = I wouldn't like to be an Indian on a H1B.
The election will be over eventually, and hopefully also will be the recession. Then we can get back to making this country great and not making scapegoats out of the people who help build it.
Aug 14th 2003, 2:06 am
#50
Ironmonger
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 33
Originally posted by RaymanInPA
Election = blame the immigrants.
Recession = blame the immigrants.
Election + Recession = I wouldn't like to be an Indian on a H1B.
The election will be over eventually, and hopefully also will be the recession. Then we can get back to making this country great and not making scapegoats out of the people who help build it.
Election = blame the immigrants.
Recession = blame the immigrants.
Election + Recession = I wouldn't like to be an Indian on a H1B.
The election will be over eventually, and hopefully also will be the recession. Then we can get back to making this country great and not making scapegoats out of the people who help build it.
Aug 14th 2003, 7:00 am
#51
Wurzel turned redneck
Joined: Feb 2003
Location: Columbia, SC (was Bristol, Wessex)
Posts: 363
Originally posted by RaymanInPA
Election = blame the immigrants.
Recession = blame the immigrants.
Election + Recession = I wouldn't like to be an Indian on a H1B.
Election = blame the immigrants.
Recession = blame the immigrants.
Election + Recession = I wouldn't like to be an Indian on a H1B.
Aug 14th 2003, 2:02 pm
#52
Pagan Sex God
Joined: May 2002
Location: Living in Oblivion
Posts: 3,668
If you actually debated it would be worth it but seeing as you are incapable of formulating arguments with out belittling people and trying to make yourself a big man it is not worth it.
If you find you someone who actually likes you on this ng then I would be very impressed, you are nothing but a jumped up little moron who gets pleasure by putting other people down and then claiming moral victories whilst still making people think you are a loser. Eithe grow up or **** off, your choice.
Patrick
If you find you someone who actually likes you on this ng then I would be very impressed, you are nothing but a jumped up little moron who gets pleasure by putting other people down and then claiming moral victories whilst still making people think you are a loser. Eithe grow up or **** off, your choice.
Patrick
Originally posted by RaymanInPA
Patrick, you are such a joke man. You have been so humiliated in any attempt to debate with me that you're reduced to making mornic one-liners with the objective of trying to look like the Ann Coulter of this board without actually saying anything that could get you humiliated again.
Pathetic prat!
If you got something to say, say it, if not save us the bandwidth pal
Patrick, you are such a joke man. You have been so humiliated in any attempt to debate with me that you're reduced to making mornic one-liners with the objective of trying to look like the Ann Coulter of this board without actually saying anything that could get you humiliated again.
Pathetic prat!
If you got something to say, say it, if not save us the bandwidth pal
Aug 15th 2003, 1:15 am
#53
Through the square window
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,723
(This is off-topic)
May I jump in with an observation -
I've looked at RaymanInPA and his posts (total of 43, recently registered)
85% of his posts have been in reply to Patrick, no-one else.
You have a virtual stalker Patrick.
RaymanInPA - you are what's known as a troll or flamer.
Someone who posts just to incite arguments and fights.
All you do is turn interesting topics sour.
Instead of making an interesting contribution to a discussion you destroy them with your personal abuse (to one member in particular, but I'm sure I will be added to your list now.)
In the real world you would be considered a bully.
Remember folks that a bully is only a bully (or troll in this case) when they have an audience.
Ignore them, no audience, they go away.
May I jump in with an observation -
I've looked at RaymanInPA and his posts (total of 43, recently registered)
85% of his posts have been in reply to Patrick, no-one else.
You have a virtual stalker Patrick.
RaymanInPA - you are what's known as a troll or flamer.
Someone who posts just to incite arguments and fights.
All you do is turn interesting topics sour.
Instead of making an interesting contribution to a discussion you destroy them with your personal abuse (to one member in particular, but I'm sure I will be added to your list now.)
In the real world you would be considered a bully.
Remember folks that a bully is only a bully (or troll in this case) when they have an audience.
Ignore them, no audience, they go away.
Aug 15th 2003, 1:21 am
#54
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,446
Originally posted by afosuk
I've looked at RaymanInPA and his posts (total of 43, recently registered) 85% of his posts have been in reply to Patrick......
I've looked at RaymanInPA and his posts (total of 43, recently registered) 85% of his posts have been in reply to Patrick......
..... Maybe you were bored, .... if not, I bet you are now! 
Aug 15th 2003, 1:29 am
#55
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 72,535
Re: No more immigration - Enough is Enough!
Originally posted by JayC
Mass immigration to the US is not good, in fact, it’s very, very bad. Economically, socially, and culturally it’s bad. Why does it continue? Well, there are perhaps four main reasons why we accept so many immigrants here.
First, Corporations/employers in general like a supply of cheap labor. A significant majority of new immigrants - legal and illegal - are unskilled and are willing to accept low wages. This keeps wages low for unskilled Americans. Blacks and poor whites suffer most. Why pay more when there’s a new immigrant willing to do the job? Big business uses new immigrants as a taxpayer-subsidized labor supply - they pay minimum wage knowing that many Latinos, many of whom bring family members here, will apply for, and get, State/Federal assistance in order to support themselves and their families… Overall, the net result is that the type of immigrants we are generally receiving contribute little to the American economy, to the extent that what they put in is taken straight out by subsidization, low tax returns, and the transfer of wages to relatives abroad.
Second, the liberal-left just adores mass, non-white, immigration. They despise the Western heritage of the United States, and see the importation of foreigners with foreign cultures as a good way to destroy what they view as “European cultural hegemony� in this country. These people are the ones who believe in multi-culturalism - assimilation is a dirty word for them.
Third, many members of Congress have districts with large immigrant communities. In return for support from these communities, they refuse to back the strict enforcement of current immigration laws, and are unlikely to vote for any new laws that restrict immigration, especially those concerning family preference. After all, “Jose’s� vote depends upon his “right� to import his five brothers and three sisters and parents and in the end, half his village from Mexico.
Last, George W. Bush, who never was that smart, believes that Latinos/Hispanics are natural cultural conservatives and so will eventually vote for the Republican party. This despite of all the evidence that new immigrants usually support the Democrats because the Democrats are the ones most likely to lamely hand over welfare checks to new arrivals.
When I read on these pages comments from the British attacking anyone with an anti-immigrant stance it makes me laugh. Most of you “Brits� whining are probably the ones who think there is too much legal and illegal immigration to the UK - according to a recent “Yougov� poll in the UK 70% of the British would like to reduce, or at least contain, legal and illegal immigration, and want to see a crackdown on bogus refugees/asylum seekers.
What a bunch of hypocrites you are.
Mass immigration to the US is not good, in fact, it’s very, very bad. Economically, socially, and culturally it’s bad. Why does it continue? Well, there are perhaps four main reasons why we accept so many immigrants here.
First, Corporations/employers in general like a supply of cheap labor. A significant majority of new immigrants - legal and illegal - are unskilled and are willing to accept low wages. This keeps wages low for unskilled Americans. Blacks and poor whites suffer most. Why pay more when there’s a new immigrant willing to do the job? Big business uses new immigrants as a taxpayer-subsidized labor supply - they pay minimum wage knowing that many Latinos, many of whom bring family members here, will apply for, and get, State/Federal assistance in order to support themselves and their families… Overall, the net result is that the type of immigrants we are generally receiving contribute little to the American economy, to the extent that what they put in is taken straight out by subsidization, low tax returns, and the transfer of wages to relatives abroad.
Second, the liberal-left just adores mass, non-white, immigration. They despise the Western heritage of the United States, and see the importation of foreigners with foreign cultures as a good way to destroy what they view as “European cultural hegemony� in this country. These people are the ones who believe in multi-culturalism - assimilation is a dirty word for them.
Third, many members of Congress have districts with large immigrant communities. In return for support from these communities, they refuse to back the strict enforcement of current immigration laws, and are unlikely to vote for any new laws that restrict immigration, especially those concerning family preference. After all, “Jose’s� vote depends upon his “right� to import his five brothers and three sisters and parents and in the end, half his village from Mexico.
Last, George W. Bush, who never was that smart, believes that Latinos/Hispanics are natural cultural conservatives and so will eventually vote for the Republican party. This despite of all the evidence that new immigrants usually support the Democrats because the Democrats are the ones most likely to lamely hand over welfare checks to new arrivals.
When I read on these pages comments from the British attacking anyone with an anti-immigrant stance it makes me laugh. Most of you “Brits� whining are probably the ones who think there is too much legal and illegal immigration to the UK - according to a recent “Yougov� poll in the UK 70% of the British would like to reduce, or at least contain, legal and illegal immigration, and want to see a crackdown on bogus refugees/asylum seekers.
What a bunch of hypocrites you are.
Aug 15th 2003, 1:35 am
#56
Through the square window
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,723
Originally posted by Pulaski
Haven't you got anything better to do? ..... Maybe you were bored, .... if not, I bet you are now!
Haven't you got anything better to do?
..... Maybe you were bored, .... if not, I bet you are now!
There was a choice of "The Amazing Race" or Wrestling on the telly...
American TV sucks.
Off for a pint now
Aug 15th 2003, 10:15 pm
#57
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Nov 2002
Location: Harbor Springs, Michigan *again*
Posts: 2,340
Umm it would seem the OP went quiet right after being questioned about his enithicity (spell check someone !)
gawd I do wish some folks wouldnt start what they cant finish .....
*sigh*
Jan
ohh p.s. .. RaymanInPA .. your attacks on Patrick are getting a little old now ... give it a rest man !
gawd I do wish some folks wouldnt start what they cant finish .....
*sigh*
Jan
ohh p.s. .. RaymanInPA .. your attacks on Patrick are getting a little old now ... give it a rest man !
Aug 15th 2003, 11:02 pm
#58
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,082
Originally posted by RaymanInPA
Patrick, you are such a joke man. You have been so humiliated in any attempt to debate with me that you're reduced to making mornic one-liners
Pathetic prat!
Patrick, you are such a joke man. You have been so humiliated in any attempt to debate with me that you're reduced to making mornic one-liners
Pathetic prat!
Panick not everyone... I'll go look up 'mornic'
Aug 16th 2003, 12:30 am
#59
Forum Regular
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 89
Since you got the time bro, do an analysis of Patricks posts as well.
Then go through each thread and find out where I mentioned Patrick first.
Then go through each thread and find out where Patrick mentioned me.
Get the picture pal?
Yeah - basically its don't mess with Ray in PA, because he's sure gonna mess you up back
Then go through each thread and find out where I mentioned Patrick first.
Then go through each thread and find out where Patrick mentioned me.
Get the picture pal?
Yeah - basically its don't mess with Ray in PA, because he's sure gonna mess you up back
Originally posted by afosuk
(This is off-topic)
May I jump in with an observation -
I've looked at RaymanInPA and his posts (total of 43, recently registered)
85% of his posts have been in reply to Patrick, no-one else.
You have a virtual stalker Patrick.
RaymanInPA - you are what's known as a troll or flamer.
Someone who posts just to incite arguments and fights.
All you do is turn interesting topics sour.
Instead of making an interesting contribution to a discussion you destroy them with your personal abuse (to one member in particular, but I'm sure I will be added to your list now.)
In the real world you would be considered a bully.
Remember folks that a bully is only a bully (or troll in this case) when they have an audience.
Ignore them, no audience, they go away.
(This is off-topic)
May I jump in with an observation -
I've looked at RaymanInPA and his posts (total of 43, recently registered)
85% of his posts have been in reply to Patrick, no-one else.
You have a virtual stalker Patrick.
RaymanInPA - you are what's known as a troll or flamer.
Someone who posts just to incite arguments and fights.
All you do is turn interesting topics sour.
Instead of making an interesting contribution to a discussion you destroy them with your personal abuse (to one member in particular, but I'm sure I will be added to your list now.)
In the real world you would be considered a bully.
Remember folks that a bully is only a bully (or troll in this case) when they have an audience.
Ignore them, no audience, they go away.
Aug 16th 2003, 9:33 pm
#60
Pagan Sex God
Joined: May 2002
Location: Living in Oblivion
Posts: 3,668
Originally posted by RaymanInPA
Yeah - basically its don't mess with Ray in PA, because he's sure gonna mess you up back
Yeah - basically its don't mess with Ray in PA, because he's sure gonna mess you up back
Watch out for a moron attack!
This guys opinion of himself is too much, inflated is not the word