New Florida Gun Law
May 13th 2005, 7:30 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Ray
Well of course they dont ... its not a self defence weapon .. its a novelty gun ...The most powerful handgun in the world ...People are buying it just cos it is ..having fired 6 rounds from one ..believe me you will never hit a damn thing .. and your wrist is going to be in pain for a day or two after firing it ...
For self defence you need something between a .380 and a 9mm
For self defence you need something between a .380 and a 9mm
Really? But what if you have to shoot through the side of an armoured ve-hickle when the cops come to arrest you for "Breach of the peace"!
May 13th 2005, 7:44 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
How would you get away with it? If someone hits your car, that's no reason to feel your life was threatened.
And you just need to raise the uncertainty.
May 13th 2005, 7:44 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Dan725
Really? But what if you have to shoot through the side of an armoured ve-hickle when the cops come to arrest you for "Breach of the peace"!
May 13th 2005, 7:48 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Boiler
There could be, it all depends.
And you just need to raise the uncertainty.
And you just need to raise the uncertainty.
Girl driving home at night, car bumps girl's car [accidently] from behind, girl pulls over in well lit and well used area, young black male gets out of second car girl feels threatened pulls a gun and shoots him.
So was she right? No.
May 13th 2005, 7:49 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
The problem is people feel threatened by different things. Imagine this scenario:
Girl driving home at night, car bumps girl's car [accidently] from behind, girl pulls over in well lit and well used area, young black male gets out of second car girl feels threatened pulls a gun and shoots him.
So was she right? No.
Girl driving home at night, car bumps girl's car [accidently] from behind, girl pulls over in well lit and well used area, young black male gets out of second car girl feels threatened pulls a gun and shoots him.
So was she right? No.
May 13th 2005, 7:52 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Ray
In your opinion....
This law will protect some nervous jittery gun carriers when they unload through their front door at the postman.
May 13th 2005, 7:56 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
And there lies the problem.
This law will protect some nervous jittery gun carriers when they unload through their front door at the postman.
This law will protect some nervous jittery gun carriers when they unload through their front door at the postman.
Concealed Weapon/Firearm licenses.. it not just for guns ...
A lot of people just carry pepper spray or stun guns ..
very effective without being deadly...
May 13th 2005, 7:58 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Ray
What you have to remember unlike other states our permit are
Concealed Weapon/Firearm licenses.. it not just for guns ...
A lot of people just carry pepper spray or stun guns ..
very effective without being deadly...
Concealed Weapon/Firearm licenses.. it not just for guns ...
A lot of people just carry pepper spray or stun guns ..
very effective without being deadly...
May 13th 2005, 7:58 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Ray
Dan I think you need some gun experiece ...drive up and I'll take to you a range ...
I've had enough gun experience to last a lifetime nipping around various warzones in the army! 
Not even got a gun here, if I was to get one it'd be a 9mm of the type I'm used to.
May 13th 2005, 8:16 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Dan725
I'm pulling your leg Ray I've had enough gun experience to last a lifetime nipping around various warzones in the army! Not even got a gun here, if I was to get one it'd be a 9mm of the type I'm used to.
I've had enough gun experience to last a lifetime nipping around various warzones in the army! Not even got a gun here, if I was to get one it'd be a 9mm of the type I'm used to.
May 13th 2005, 8:26 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I didn't realise the concealed weapons law covered non-leathal weapons. But surely this new law is just for guns?
May 13th 2005, 8:42 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Ray
Have you actually read the bill SB 436 and I don't mean the Sun newspaper style version ... like all these things it not quite like the anti gun brigade would have you believe
The exact text of the part everyone is concerned about is:
providing that a person is justified in using deadly force under certain circumstances;declaring that a person is not under a duty to retreat if the person is in a place where he or she has a right to be;
May 13th 2005, 8:51 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I didn't realise the concealed weapons law covered non-leathal weapons.
May 13th 2005, 9:07 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
How would you get away with it? If someone hits your car, that's no reason to feel your life was threatened.
It's a pretty common car jacking scam to shunt a car at the lights and when owner gets out to say Oi and do insurance, they get a gun put in there face and the motor stolen...
May 13th 2005, 9:12 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Bob
depends on the neighbourhood don't it...
It's a pretty common car jacking scam to shunt a car at the lights and when owner gets out to say Oi and do insurance, they get a gun put in there face and the motor stolen...
It's a pretty common car jacking scam to shunt a car at the lights and when owner gets out to say Oi and do insurance, they get a gun put in there face and the motor stolen...