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Old May 18th 2010, 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by chartreuse
I take it there won't be a box for "The schools/cops/firemen etc. would be just fine without an increase if we cut some pointless bureaucrats."?
My concern is not for their funding but rather the manner of raising it. By simply increasing the sales tax, it hits the poor disproportionately. On the other hand, voting no because of this puts me in there with the teabaggers. I may just go and shoot myself instead.
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
My concern is not for their funding but rather the manner of raising it. By simply increasing the sales tax, it hits the poor disproportionately. On the other hand, voting no because of this puts me in there with the teabaggers. I may just go and shoot myself instead.
You have Euro Countries with 20% plus 'sales tax'.

Taxation and Representation should be interchangeable.
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Old May 18th 2010, 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by penguinbar
Most of the illegals I worked with were white and Irish. A few Spanish dishwashers.
In Arizona?
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Old May 18th 2010, 5:09 am
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In Arizona?
No I live in New York City. We could be next though!
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In Arizona?
Why not

Or are you racially profiling?
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Old May 18th 2010, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by penguinbar
If they are breaking the law and not paying tax then maybe yes they should not be allowed to vote.
It's not against the law to not pay tax.
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Old May 18th 2010, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
My concern is not for their funding but rather the manner of raising it. By simply increasing the sales tax, it hits the poor disproportionately. On the other hand, voting no because of this puts me in there with the teabaggers. I may just go and shoot myself instead.
So which way did the coin land? Heads or tails?
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So which way did the coin land? Heads or tails?
Voted no. The counter on the scanner showed I was the 56th person to vote in my precinct at 2pm when I went in! Dontcha love American democracy?
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Old May 18th 2010, 10:46 pm
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What are these wingnuts going to do next?? Re-introduce slavery?
Ironic you knock on conservatives and yet you live in South Carolina
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Voted no. The counter on the scanner showed I was the 56th person to vote in my precinct at 2pm when I went in! Dontcha love American democracy?
Ooooh now you'll be a marked man as a tea-bagger LOL There's a piece here about Jan Brewer from the LA Times claiming she might not survive the tax hikes:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...an-brewer.html
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Originally Posted by chrisfromusa
Ironic you knock on conservatives and yet you live in South Carolina
Yes well the job is here. I wouldn't be adverse to moving elsewhere though. SC is run by a load of wingnuts with barely a brain between 3 of them!
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Old May 18th 2010, 10:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Brit3964
Ooooh now you'll be a marked man as a tea-bagger LOL There's a piece here about Jan Brewer from the LA Times claiming she might not survive the tax hikes:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...an-brewer.html
She needs to follow Chris Christie's ways of balancing the budget. Being blunt and honest and freeze all pay for all state workers, no pay rises, and renegotiate union contracts, shrink the government, fire people, try everything else before raising taxes. The politicians also should have their pay cut

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Originally Posted by Rete
I know you are being sarcastic but honestly, while I don't live in Arizona, I live in a portion of lower New York State where we have more than our share of illegals. Many of these illegals are driving big new SUV's, their children are going to some of the higher scored schools in lower Westchester because they live two and three families to an apartment or live one family in a studio apartment. They send money home to their families in their home country. And yes, there are far too many that are homeless and live in the woods in makeshift villages. If this is the way you had to live to be here illegally, then why in heaven's name are you still here? To better yourself and your family. That type of living is better?

While they have rights to be treated humanly, they do not have the right to live and work here. There have been immigration laws in effect for most of the life of the US. I know my mother followed them, as did my grandparents from Poland in the 1800's. One family member comes over and works and saves until they can sponsor more family members. My grandmother's sister sponsored her and my grandfather's older brother sponsored him. My father sponsored my mother.

Illegal immigration is not limited to the US only. The UK has had more than its share of illegal immigrants over the years. With the establishment of the EU, now you can live and work in any EU county you wish to without having immigration papers. You just need your EU card.

There has to be a solution to the illegal immigration problem in the US with stiff penalties to those who flaunted the laws for tens of years. The federal government is doing squat all and if Arizona's law makes them get off their collective fat arses to seek and institute a solution to the problem, then more the power to Arizona. For an illegal, you gambled and now you have to pay the consequences for your bet because you lose.
But here in the UK we hunt the illegals down like dogs pardon the pun we raid chinese takeout resturants and butchers shops and hairdressing salons and if you steal an unemployed person's social security number we call it national insurance number they are on you like a flash we have immigration officers in London underground stations checking people's ID as they go on the tube and they do catch people they don't do it every day though. I have never seen this on the ele in Chicago and I am sure they don't do it in new york either. Why is that?

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Originally Posted by chrisfromusa
Ironic you knock on conservatives and yet you live in South Carolina
Right..cuz we all know that everyone in a state are all part of the same political party. Just because I happen to live in KY doesn't mean I think like all the other backwoods hillbillies.

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But here in the UK we hunt the illegals down like dogs pardon the pun we raid chinese takeout resturants and butchers shops and hairdressing salons and if you steal an unemployed person's social security number we call it national insurance they are on you like a flash we have immigration officers in London underground stations checking people's ID as they go on the tube and they do catch people they don't do it every day though. I have never seen this on the ele in Chicago and I am sure they don't do it in new york either.
Police are not allowed to stop you and ask your immigration status - it's illegal. Not to mention, enforcement of immigration is a federal domain, not state. Which is one of the key issues with the AZ law. And, as a USC, there is no such documentation for me to carry which specifies my status..unless I'm supposed to carry by birth certificate in my wallet.

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But here in the UK we hunt the illegals down like dogs pardon the pun we raid chinese takeout resturants and butchers shops and hairdressing salons and if you steal an unemployed person's social security number we call it national insurance number they are on you like a flash we have immigration officers in London underground stations checking people's ID as they go on the tube and they do catch people they don't do it every day though. I have never seen this on the ele in Chicago and I am sure they don't do it in new york either. Why is that?

Since when have Brits carried ID?
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