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Old May 3rd 2010, 5:08 pm
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Default New Airline Merger Makes it the Worlds Largest.

As we know Delta and Northwest merged but if plans go ahead the merger between United and Continental will pass Delta/Northwest and will be the new worlds largest.

It bothers me in that there will be little competition in the pricing. I guess watch this space and see what happens.
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Can't stand Continental, I was happy when they finally left SkyTeam. Sucks for me as I am looking to move to SF Bay area and therefore switch my allegiance from Delta to United.
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Default Re: New Airline Merger Makes it the Worlds Largest.

Domestically the US needs less airlines, there are too many now competing for too few passengers.

Consolidation is needed for the US to have healthy airlines again.

Domestically there will be no shortage of airlines providing competition.

Southwest
US Airways
Air Tran
Jetblue
Virgin America
Frontier
American
Delta
United (assuming the merger goes through)

Plus the smaller players such as Spirit, Sun Country.

Thats still 9 airlines providing service, several of which are major players.

Fares (at this time) in general are not sustainable for the airlines and most haven't report decent profits in a decade, even Southwest reported a fairly small profit for the 1st quarter and they are one of the best run airlines out there, most others reported yet more losses.

Even international to Europe if one is willing to connect plenty of competition.

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
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US Airways
Air Tran
Jetblue
Virgin America
Frontier
American
Delta
United (assuming the merger goes through)
Flying from our local airport (which we usually do because it is easier with kids) most of those are not an option.

Flying internation from Detroit or Chicago most of those would not be an option.
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Default Re: New Airline Merger Makes it the Worlds Largest.

Originally Posted by Ash UK/US
Flying from our local airport (which we usually do because it is easier with kids) most of those are not an option.

Flying internation from Detroit or Chicago most of those would not be an option.
Small city will almost always mean paying more..

International from both those airports, Continental would not have much affect on fares, + you have a variety of foreign airlines also providing competition.

There really is no shortage of competition with this merger.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Small city will almost always mean paying more..

International from both those airports, Continental would not have much affect on fares, + you have a variety of foreign airlines also providing competition.

There really is no shortage of competition with this merger.
Other than when BMI used to fly into Chicago I have always got the best prices with US airlines.

Delta Northwest & United are the main players in this area.
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I hope they don't cancel the Newark to Manchester route...Continental was the only airline that flies that route.
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Keeping the United name but the Continental colors and logo apparently.
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Originally Posted by rotoiti
Can't stand Continental, I was happy when they finally left SkyTeam. Sucks for me as I am looking to move to SF Bay area and therefore switch my allegiance from Delta to United.
I can't stand Continental either and it's the main airline from my local airport (Newark/EWR)! With a *few exceptions*, I've observed that many of their employees (ground staff and flight attendants, are miserable and indeed downright rude to passengers).

No wonder they've recently joined Star Alliance (United is also *A) which ties up the deal neatly between the two airlines.

I was chatting with an Aussie expat friend (who spends most of his working life on overseas trips) and he was wondering why the airlines have mergers. I reckoned it's probably a way to axe staff, routes, aircraft (no duplication of routes) fewer benefits eg. pension scheme, medical? Otherwise, why would they do it?
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Originally Posted by Englishmum
I can't stand Continental either and it's the main airline from my local airport (Newark/EWR)! With a *few exceptions*, I've observed that many of their employees (ground staff and flight attendants, are miserable and indeed downright rude to passengers).
It's not just Continental. Anybody working at EWR is miserable!

I was chatting with an Aussie expat friend (who spends most of his working life on overseas trips) and he was wondering why the airlines have mergers. I reckoned it's probably a way to axe staff, routes, aircraft (no duplication of routes) fewer benefits eg. pension scheme, medical? Otherwise, why would they do it?
True. It's all about money. Continental had already dropped a lot of their operations out of EWR last year and moved them to Houston making the average wait on the tarmac about 20 minutes in good weather instead of 45 minutes previously. It actually makes it nice to fly out of there now relatively speaking.
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Originally Posted by Englishmum
I can't stand Continental either and it's the main airline from my local airport (Newark/EWR)! With a *few exceptions*, I've observed that many of their employees (ground staff and flight attendants, are miserable and indeed downright rude to passengers).

No wonder they've recently joined Star Alliance (United is also *A) which ties up the deal neatly between the two airlines.

I was chatting with an Aussie expat friend (who spends most of his working life on overseas trips) and he was wondering why the airlines have mergers. I reckoned it's probably a way to axe staff, routes, aircraft (no duplication of routes) fewer benefits eg. pension scheme, medical? Otherwise, why would they do it?
United wanted a greater presence in Europe...which Continental have. Continental wanted a greater presence in Asia...which United have.
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Default Re: New Airline Merger Makes it the Worlds Largest.

Originally Posted by Englishmum
I can't stand Continental either and it's the main airline from my local airport (Newark/EWR)! With a *few exceptions*, I've observed that many of their employees (ground staff and flight attendants, are miserable and indeed downright rude to passengers).

No wonder they've recently joined Star Alliance (United is also *A) which ties up the deal neatly between the two airlines.

I was chatting with an Aussie expat friend (who spends most of his working life on overseas trips) and he was wondering why the airlines have mergers. I reckoned it's probably a way to axe staff, routes, aircraft (no duplication of routes) fewer benefits eg. pension scheme, medical? Otherwise, why would they do it?
Few airlines left in the US have pensions and most have already dropped their while in various bankruptcy proceedings over the years, I dont believe either here have true pension programs. Younger airlines never had pensions to begin with.

You dont need to merge to lay off staff and both have laid off plenty over the past 10 years.


Houston based crews tend to be friendlier, Newark is Newark and friendliness in general is not common from the trips on other airlines and hotels I've stayed at.
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Default Re: New Airline Merger Makes it the Worlds Largest.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Domestically the US needs less airlines, there are too many now competing for too few passengers.

Consolidation is needed for the US to have healthy airlines again.

Domestically there will be no shortage of airlines providing competition.

Southwest
US Airways
Air Tran
Jetblue
Virgin America
Frontier
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Delta
United (assuming the merger goes through)

Plus the smaller players such as Spirit, Sun Country.

Thats still 9 airlines providing service, several of which are major players.

Fares (at this time) in general are not sustainable for the airlines and most haven't report decent profits in a decade, even Southwest reported a fairly small profit for the 1st quarter and they are one of the best run airlines out there, most others reported yet more losses.

Even international to Europe if one is willing to connect plenty of competition.
at least now when i have to pay more for a airplane ticket I can be content in the knowledge that its going towards airline profits.
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Default Re: New Airline Merger Makes it the Worlds Largest.

Originally Posted by oldmanriver
at least now when i have to pay more for a airplane ticket I can be content in the knowledge that its going towards airline profits.
Point of a company is to make money, if there is so much competition prices dont cover costs, well long term that doesn't benefit anyone.

Merger is better then a large airline going under, and for most of the public, prices are not likely to increase by much if at all, especially domestically.

The US is not in short supply for competition when it comes to airlines.
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