Need help DVD Copyrights on Ebay!!!
Sep 26th 2003, 1:24 pm
#16
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Originally posted by nathan barley
...... A legit copy of a movie from a motion picture studio would be specific to one region only, unless it's region 0, which really nothing but porn is. .....
...... A legit copy of a movie from a motion picture studio would be specific to one region only, unless it's region 0, which really nothing but porn is. .....
Sep 26th 2003, 2:05 pm
#17
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I've been thinking and re-reading this.
There must have been something in your text or on the photograph that gave ebay a reason to believe that this was a DVD copy or bootleg.
They don't pull an auction from the website without good reason.
(Admittedly they could have made a mistake, but you can't give us any text or evidence that proves that they are wrong.)
Another way your auction call be pulled is if someone reports to ebay that they have seen something they believe to be a copyright infringement or bootleg.
But it takes ebay so long to investigate this sort of thisng that they auction would have ended by the time they have a look.
Using an image taken from another website is a big no-no.
(Copyright infringement)
- To anyone who is thinking of selling something on ebay - always scan or take a photograph of the item you are selling, never use someone elses.
- Always keep a copy of the text you used on the auction.
(A bit of advice an American friend gave me, which I always remember and use since) - CYA - Cover Your Ass.
So in an instance like this you have proof that you can use to back up your claim of innocence.
Because ebay pulled the auction you don't have anything.
But you say that you did use a pic from another site - Is this pic still on your computer ?
If it is then post a reply and attach the pic to your post - let us see it.
As what to do about the letter and the legal threat.
Remember that this is a litigious society, they have no qualms about suing you and they have expensive, powerful lawyers (aka blood sucking sharks)
It is best to go back to the ebay discussion boards and ask some more, read some more and decide what you should do.
As Nathan said - contact the blood suckers and see what they say.
Gather as much evidence as you have and write to them and enclose a copy of your proof of innocence and a scan/pic of your copy of the DVD.
These are only my thoughts, this is just one opinion, go to the ebay boards and check the FAQ's.
I wouldn't advise ignoring a legal letter.
Webbie.
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There must have been something in your text or on the photograph that gave ebay a reason to believe that this was a DVD copy or bootleg.
They don't pull an auction from the website without good reason.
(Admittedly they could have made a mistake, but you can't give us any text or evidence that proves that they are wrong.)
Another way your auction call be pulled is if someone reports to ebay that they have seen something they believe to be a copyright infringement or bootleg.
But it takes ebay so long to investigate this sort of thisng that they auction would have ended by the time they have a look.
Using an image taken from another website is a big no-no.
(Copyright infringement)
- To anyone who is thinking of selling something on ebay - always scan or take a photograph of the item you are selling, never use someone elses.
- Always keep a copy of the text you used on the auction.
(A bit of advice an American friend gave me, which I always remember and use since) - CYA - Cover Your Ass.
So in an instance like this you have proof that you can use to back up your claim of innocence.
Because ebay pulled the auction you don't have anything.
But you say that you did use a pic from another site - Is this pic still on your computer ?
If it is then post a reply and attach the pic to your post - let us see it.
As what to do about the letter and the legal threat.
Remember that this is a litigious society, they have no qualms about suing you and they have expensive, powerful lawyers (aka blood sucking sharks)
It is best to go back to the ebay discussion boards and ask some more, read some more and decide what you should do.
As Nathan said - contact the blood suckers and see what they say.
Gather as much evidence as you have and write to them and enclose a copy of your proof of innocence and a scan/pic of your copy of the DVD.
These are only my thoughts, this is just one opinion, go to the ebay boards and check the FAQ's.
I wouldn't advise ignoring a legal letter.
Webbie.
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Sep 27th 2003, 2:32 am
#18
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Originally posted by Pulaski
Hang on! The BBC's nature documentaries are "Region 0" too, and I guess a lot of the Beeb's otther material that gets little or no airing outside the UK.
Hang on! The BBC's nature documentaries are "Region 0" too, and I guess a lot of the Beeb's otther material that gets little or no airing outside the UK.
Sep 27th 2003, 6:34 am
#19
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Regional encoding is a real pain in the arse and it needs to be scrapped. Not only have we got to deal with the PAL/NTSC crap but also this as well....what exactly is the point in regional encoding (when we can by multi-region machines) anyway?
Sep 27th 2003, 9:46 am
#20
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To quote the DVD Copy Control Association directly:
"Movies are often released at different times in different parts of the world. For example, a film that opens in December in the U.S. might not premier in Tokyo until several months later. By the time that Tokyo premier occurs, the film may be ready for DVD distribution in the U.S.
Regional DVD coding allows viewers to enjoy films on DVD at home shortly after their region's theatrical run is complete by enabling regions to operate on their own schedules. A film can be released on DVD in one region even though it is still being played in theaters in another region because regional coding ensures it will not interfere with the theatrical run in another region. Without regional coding, all home viewers would have to wait until a film completes its entire global theatrical run before a DVD could be released anywhere. "
Basically to stop the clash of home purchase/rentals interfering with theatre runs.
"Movies are often released at different times in different parts of the world. For example, a film that opens in December in the U.S. might not premier in Tokyo until several months later. By the time that Tokyo premier occurs, the film may be ready for DVD distribution in the U.S.
Regional DVD coding allows viewers to enjoy films on DVD at home shortly after their region's theatrical run is complete by enabling regions to operate on their own schedules. A film can be released on DVD in one region even though it is still being played in theaters in another region because regional coding ensures it will not interfere with the theatrical run in another region. Without regional coding, all home viewers would have to wait until a film completes its entire global theatrical run before a DVD could be released anywhere. "
Basically to stop the clash of home purchase/rentals interfering with theatre runs.
Sep 28th 2003, 12:50 am
#21
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Originally posted by nathan barley
To quote the DVD Copy Control Association directly:
"Movies are often released at different times in different parts of the world. For example, a film that opens in December in the U.S. might not premier in Tokyo until several months later. By the time that Tokyo premier occurs, the film may be ready for DVD distribution in the U.S.
Regional DVD coding allows viewers to enjoy films on DVD at home shortly after their region's theatrical run is complete by enabling regions to operate on their own schedules. A film can be released on DVD in one region even though it is still being played in theaters in another region because regional coding ensures it will not interfere with the theatrical run in another region. Without regional coding, all home viewers would have to wait until a film completes its entire global theatrical run before a DVD could be released anywhere. "
Basically to stop the clash of home purchase/rentals interfering with theatre runs.
To quote the DVD Copy Control Association directly:
"Movies are often released at different times in different parts of the world. For example, a film that opens in December in the U.S. might not premier in Tokyo until several months later. By the time that Tokyo premier occurs, the film may be ready for DVD distribution in the U.S.
Regional DVD coding allows viewers to enjoy films on DVD at home shortly after their region's theatrical run is complete by enabling regions to operate on their own schedules. A film can be released on DVD in one region even though it is still being played in theaters in another region because regional coding ensures it will not interfere with the theatrical run in another region. Without regional coding, all home viewers would have to wait until a film completes its entire global theatrical run before a DVD could be released anywhere. "
Basically to stop the clash of home purchase/rentals interfering with theatre runs.
On the main thread topic - multi-region would imply bootleg, and there was probably no clue in your letter as it was a standard computer generated from a search of specific text - "multi-region" for example.
Last edited by JerseyBoy; Sep 28th 2003 at 12:58 am.
Sep 28th 2003, 3:46 am
#22
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Originally posted by JerseyBoy
...or to put it another way, it maximizes the revenue of the film companies at the expense of the consumer by sacrificing choice. Thank goodness for the internet hacks for changing every dvd player to multi-region.
On the main thread topic - multi-region would imply bootleg, and there was probably no clue in your letter as it was a standard computer generated from a search of specific text - "multi-region" for example.
...or to put it another way, it maximizes the revenue of the film companies at the expense of the consumer by sacrificing choice. Thank goodness for the internet hacks for changing every dvd player to multi-region.
On the main thread topic - multi-region would imply bootleg, and there was probably no clue in your letter as it was a standard computer generated from a search of specific text - "multi-region" for example.
Sep 28th 2003, 8:09 am
#23
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Originally posted by JerseyBoy
...or to put it another way, it maximizes the revenue of the film companies at the expense of the consumer by sacrificing choice.
...or to put it another way, it maximizes the revenue of the film companies at the expense of the consumer by sacrificing choice.
Also: I'd ignore that letter at your own risk. Ie: Don't.
Sep 28th 2003, 11:11 am
#24
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I'm still in the UK right now but most of my DVDs (and video games) come from the US and Canada. I've noticed that movie releases in the UK have been getting much better, possibly because of the growing popularity of programs like Kazaa allowing for bootleg versions to be downloaded. The DVD releases are still way behind the US however, and considering that I can save money and get a movie earlier, I have no incentive to buy DVDs from here. Also there's the problem of BBFC cuts, movies such as The Matrix for example had "imitable techniques" (headbutts) removed and/or toned down to get a UK 15 rating. I don't much believe in censorship and think it's terrible that there isn't even a warning on the box of edited DVDs...
Sep 28th 2003, 3:26 pm
#25
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Originally posted by Kasia
Boy, so you think i can just ignor it the letter?
Boy, so you think i can just ignor it the letter?
Sep 29th 2003, 12:55 am
#26
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Originally posted by Lyris
Also there's the problem of BBFC cuts, movies such as The Matrix for example had "imitable techniques" (headbutts) removed and/or toned down to get a UK 15 rating. I don't much believe in censorship and think it's terrible that there isn't even a warning on the box of edited DVDs...
Also there's the problem of BBFC cuts, movies such as The Matrix for example had "imitable techniques" (headbutts) removed and/or toned down to get a UK 15 rating. I don't much believe in censorship and think it's terrible that there isn't even a warning on the box of edited DVDs...
Sep 29th 2003, 4:49 am
#27
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Originally posted by JerseyBoy
No, I think you should send something back or the computer will continue to prosecute you. Simply say that you have an original dvd, you were not aware that you were in violation of any laws, but that you have now destroyed it to avoid getting in any trouble. It's not brave, it's not the ethically correct thing to do, but it makes it go away.
No, I think you should send something back or the computer will continue to prosecute you. Simply say that you have an original dvd, you were not aware that you were in violation of any laws, but that you have now destroyed it to avoid getting in any trouble. It's not brave, it's not the ethically correct thing to do, but it makes it go away.
if the DVd is genuine then there is no reason on this earth why she should destroy it. Simply write to them and explain the situation, the photograph scenario etc. If its a genuine item you have nothing to fear, so screw them.
Rob
Sep 29th 2003, 2:52 pm
#28
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Originally posted by robclews
if the DVd is genuine then there is no reason on this earth why she should destroy it. Rob
if the DVd is genuine then there is no reason on this earth why she should destroy it. Rob
Sep 29th 2003, 11:58 pm
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Originally posted by JerseyBoy
I didn't say she should destroy it! Just trying to make it go away is all.
I didn't say she should destroy it! Just trying to make it go away is all.
Ok, read it differently to how it was written lol
Rob
Aug 28th 2004, 2:30 am
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Re: Need help DVD Copyrights on Ebay!!!
hmm, would it be that the image was copyrighted ? perhaps it came from the companies website, and everytime someone looked at the aution, it sent a request for the picture to their servers ?
if not, i would take the letter seriously, or reply with an email enquiring as to what infringned copyright, and a digital picture of your copy of the movie, with a hand written (not signed) note next to it with the date written on it.
or you could just hand over the dvd..although i dont think signing it is a good idea.. unless you sign with a somewhat different signiture.
if not, i would take the letter seriously, or reply with an email enquiring as to what infringned copyright, and a digital picture of your copy of the movie, with a hand written (not signed) note next to it with the date written on it.
or you could just hand over the dvd..although i dont think signing it is a good idea.. unless you sign with a somewhat different signiture.
