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Sparticus515 Apr 3rd 2014 7:00 pm

Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
Hi, sorry for making a thread which has probably been posted thousands of times but I'm finding it hard to get good advice.

I'm currently 18, looking to move to the USA after I finish Uni (so there is still a few years until any of this is definite).
I have an offer from the University of Cambridge for Computer Science, and I would like to move to California, as that's where a large amount of technology jobs are based. So I was just wondering which would be a better route for me to move to America.
Would it be easier to get a job with just a BA and hope an employer would sponsor me or would it be better to do postgrad studies in a college over there? Speaking to the staff at Cambridge they said that quite a few grads get jobs from the big American companies (Microsoft, Google etc) but would I be right in thinking those would be on temporary H-1B Visas? If so is there any way to 'progress from a H-1B to a permanent visa?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Sally Redux Apr 3rd 2014 7:04 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
H-1B is a non-immigrant visa but you would usually get your employer to sponsor you for a green card (Legal Permanent Resident) before it runs out.

Pulaski Apr 3rd 2014 7:25 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
To get from where you are to where you'd like to be, postgrad studies would be the most promising avenue to explore. Also keep your personal life unencumbered, because you might meet "that special person" over here and a marriage visa is by far the most certain way to get a greencard. :)

Hotscot Apr 3rd 2014 9:51 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
Education over here and the development of a relationship with a citizen sounds like a good plan.

If you want to chat more about high tech careers in particular PM me if you like when you have the privilege to do so. I've been through 15 years of high tech, small and large. (It's a tough job market/career, you can't coast along.)

Just realized Cambridge UK not MA?

Get a solid degree, develop industry contacts like hell, companies like Adobe, Microsoft, Intel...and if you like you could specialize, for example aerospace, energy, cybersecurity, finance....I think you have a bright future:)

S Folinsky Apr 3rd 2014 10:58 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by hotscot (Post 11203497)
Just realized Cambridge UK not MA?

Hmm. There are two schools of higher education in Cambridge MA and neither one is called "University of Cambridge" last time I looked. That said, if OP does really well in undergraduate, there is an excellent school in Pasadena, California to do graduate work. All three of the schools mentioned here are not only excellent, but they give wonderful networking opportunities.

Hotscot Apr 3rd 2014 11:12 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
And close to JPL.

Sally Redux Apr 4th 2014 12:16 am

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
I assumed Cambridge UK.

monfed Apr 4th 2014 6:05 am

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
Cambridge alumnus here, class of 2009. One of my mates got an H1B straight out of graduating to work for, without naming the organisation, the government body responsible for space flight. So, it can be done, and without a first class degree at that. (He was an engineer).

Sparticus515 Apr 4th 2014 7:16 am

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by hotscot (Post 11203497)
Just realized Cambridge UK not MA?

Yep, University of Cambridge, UK.

I know that we get on opportunity to study at MIT for a year as a part of the Cambridge-MIT exchange. Would this make me look better to American employers?

penguinsix Apr 4th 2014 8:21 am

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by Sparticus515 (Post 11203963)
Yep, University of Cambridge, UK.

I know that we get on opportunity to study at MIT for a year as a part of the Cambridge-MIT exchange. Would this make me look better to American employers?

Networking-Networking-Networking.

Yes, a stint at MIT would be very valuable, but not because it's a nice line item on the CV but because you'll meet people who will be able to network you into jobs later in life.

If finances are there, is there a chance of doing your entire degree in the USA? Maybe at MIT or Stanford or someplace like that? Would cost a ton though.

Sparticus515 Apr 4th 2014 9:56 am

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by penguinsix (Post 11204013)
Networking-Networking-Networking.

Yes, a stint at MIT would be very valuable, but not because it's a nice line item on the CV but because you'll meet people who will be able to network you into jobs later in life.

If finances are there, is there a chance of doing your entire degree in the USA? Maybe at MIT or Stanford or someplace like that? Would cost a ton though.

Unfortunately not, I can barely afford Cambridge as it is and that's with tuition and maintenance loans.

retzie Apr 4th 2014 10:30 am

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
I would go with UK Bachelors with year abroad + postgrad in the US. Use the year at MIT to figure out exactly what/where you want to do the latter.

Tangential advice: keep up your math! Not all CS grads do, so it can really set you apart, especially with the current big data revolution. Think serious probability and all the calculus feeding into it, and linear algebra, at least.

Sparticus515 Apr 4th 2014 10:44 am

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by retzie (Post 11204128)
I would go with UK Bachelors with year abroad + postgrad in the US. Use the year at MIT to figure out exactly what/where you want to do the latter.

Tangential advice: keep up your math! Not all CS grads do, so it can really set you apart, especially with the current big data revolution. Think serious probability and all the calculus feeding into it, and linear algebra, at least.

Yeah that seems to be the advice i get from most grads. It's one of the reasons why I chose Cambridge over Oxford, the Cambridge CS course is quite a bit more mathematical than most.

Hotscot Apr 4th 2014 4:17 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
And make sure you take a technical programming component.

steveq Apr 4th 2014 4:45 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by hotscot (Post 11204599)
And make sure you take a technical programming component.

Make yourself informed about all fields of engineering, not just "yours", as HotScot points out. Programming skills are very handy too. Don't be like the mechanical engineering graduate I had that couldn't debug a basic electrical circuit.

Bob Apr 4th 2014 4:55 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by Sparticus515 (Post 11203963)
Yep, University of Cambridge, UK.

I know that we get on opportunity to study at MIT for a year as a part of the Cambridge-MIT exchange. Would this make me look better to American employers?

It would be great as it gets you connections on the ground.

Plus there are a boat load of tech companies in Boston and the burbs...once you get past the obvious big named ones, look into Lexington/Bedford/Burlington to a lot of high money but smaller outfits that'll be worth getting in touch with, they're all in the burbs.

Though one thing about MIT, see if you can blag housing because if it's not including, you won't be staying in their campus condo's as they're $3.5K a month in rent. Well the nice, newish one is.

S Folinsky Apr 4th 2014 6:55 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 11204638)
Though one thing about MIT, see if you can blag housing because if it's not including, you won't be staying in their campus condo's as they're $3.5K a month in rent. Well the nice, newish one is.

Hmm, I don't know about the campus housing on the west side, but East Campus and Senior House are about $3.5K a semester, not a month.

I think that the MIT networking will be wonderful. It really helps if an MIT prof takes a cotton to the student.

Bob Apr 4th 2014 7:35 pm

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by S Folinsky (Post 11204796)
Hmm, I don't know about the campus housing on the west side, but East Campus and Senior House are about $3.5K a semester, not a month.

I think that the MIT networking will be wonderful. It really helps if an MIT prof takes a cotton to the student.

If it's per semester, they might want to clear that up as it's what put a couple of folks I know from moving in...they got a flat share up the road instead :lol:

Then again, one was a visiting lecturer so might not have been offered the student rate.

S Folinsky Apr 5th 2014 1:11 am

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 
Here is the MIT rate chart on undergraduate housing. It is clearly marked "per semester."

The "old" buildings are on the east side of the campus. The newer ones on the western side charge more.

Bob Apr 5th 2014 2:46 am

Re: Moving to USA with STEM degree, options?
 

Originally Posted by S Folinsky (Post 11205214)
Here is the MIT rate chart on undergraduate housing. It is clearly marked "per semester."

The "old" buildings are on the east side of the campus. The newer ones on the western side charge more.

Undergrad rate....yeah, don't know how/if it differs to post grad.

Either way, it's a nice campus and nice area.


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