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Old Sep 8th 2012, 9:41 pm
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Hi to everyone
We are a family of four with two teenagers 16&14 and the opportunity to move to Kansas City Mo.
We are still unsure and would love some views and advice on this.
One of our main concerns is how our teenagers would cope with transfer to the US curriculum.
One has just started A levels in the Uk and one doing GCSE, both with two years ahead of them.
Is the US school curriculum ahead or behind the UK?Would a high school diploma/certificate be accepted widely by a Uk university?
what do most families like to do for fun?
We are not a sporty family, but love live music,theatre and travel.
What are considered the best areas to live, schools to attend etc?
Any advice would be greatly received to help us make our decision
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Well to be totally frank, it's a bad idea given the kids' ages. Let the kids finish school in the UK. especially the one who has started A levels. The systems are very different.

As for yourself, what do you know about KC? Are you moving there for a fantastic job opportunity? How much research have you done and how much do you know about the USA in general? I'm not particularly fond of the heartland - culturally or climatically. But if the job is right, then it might work for you. But IMO the kids come first. Have them finish their secondary education in the UK would be my advice.
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Hi Thanks for the reply, it is a great job opportunity but need to put our children first so appreciate the feedback. We did visit KC MO for a few days, liked what we saw but didn't get a real feel for the place so any further comments from members would be welcome.

In what way does the education system differ?
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In what way are the systems different? Well to answer the question you posed in the first post, no, a high school diploma will not get you admitted to a UK university. A high school diploma says not much more than you meet minimum (roughly O level) standard in core subjects (English, Math etc.). To be considered for a UK uni you will need a passing grade in several (probably 5 or 6) 'Advanced Placement' (somewhere between A/O level) exams or the International Baccalaureate. Your 16 year old will need to plunge straight into 3 AP classes first year, and another 3 the following final year of H/S. US high schools tech an entire course in 1 year. In the UK it is spread out over several years. Many US students don't do AP exams, except those who are trying for Ivy League or other selective universities or international universities. This is why the typical US undergraduate uni course is 4 years vs. 3 in the UK. If your 16 year old gets settled quickly it might work, but it's a big risk.
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Your 16 year old and 14 year old would find themselves in high school, probably (for the 16 year old) for a few more years. Teens here generally graduate from high school at the age of 18. A Levels are more on par with an Associates degree from a community college. Would I interrupt the 16 year old's A levels? Only if you can find comparable subjects at a community college, and you probably would, but you will pay for it, especially being an international student.

The 14 year old may find it a bit dull. But there are usually advanced placement classes in high schools and you can check out school districts in advance because a lot of them are offering IB classes.

Good luck!
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KC is actually a pretty nice city (although it's in the wrong part of the country for me - no mountains). I spend some time there for work. But, yeah, it's all about the kids. And you might want to check into residency requirements for attending UK university.
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Default Re: Moving to Kansas city MO from uk with teenagers

Originally Posted by Donna_c uk View Post
Hi to everyone
We are a family of four with two teenagers 16&14 and the opportunity to move to Kansas City Mo.
We are still unsure and would love some views and advice on this.
One of our main concerns is how our teenagers would cope with transfer to the US curriculum.
One has just started A levels in the Uk and one doing GCSE, both with two years ahead of them.
Is the US school curriculum ahead or behind the UK?Would a high school diploma/certificate be accepted widely by a Uk university?
what do most families like to do for fun?
We are not a sporty family, but love live music,theatre and travel.
What are considered the best areas to live, schools to attend etc?
Any advice would be greatly received to help us make our decision
Another consideration is where in the UK you are moving from. If you are used to the music/theatre/cultural scene of a big city in the UK, you are likely to find Kansas City MO a bit slow.

Also be aware that there will be some noticeable culture shock when you are actually living here that is not necessarily obvious when just visiting. The fact that the two countries speak more or less the same language superficially covers profound cultural differences. Some people adapt easily, some not so much.

If your children will be going to the public (state) schools, then research which ones are good and make sure you live in its specific area - living on the other side of the street can put you in a different school district.

http://www.kcpublicschools.org/site/....aspx?PageID=1

There are some school reviews here.

http://www.greatschools.org/missouri...-city/schools/

Good luck, whatever you decide.
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My son did apply to some UK universities from here. They seem to look for AP as the equivalent to A levels, but you may not need six - he was only asked for two at level 4.

However, it's a very different system and I think those ages are difficult. I did meet an English family here who had come over with a 16-year-old daughter and apparently she had found it hard to settle and went back to stay with friends in the vacations.

America is REALLY different from the UK in so many ways, don't burn your bridges if you do come.
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Originally Posted by Donna_c uk View Post
Hi to everyone
We are a family of four with two teenagers 16&14 and the opportunity to move to Kansas City Mo.
We are still unsure and would love some views and advice on this.
One of our main concerns is how our teenagers would cope with transfer to the US curriculum.
One has just started A levels in the Uk and one doing GCSE, both with two years ahead of them.
Is the US school curriculum ahead or behind the UK?Would a high school diploma/certificate be accepted widely by a Uk university?
what do most families like to do for fun?
We are not a sporty family, but love live music,theatre and travel.
What are considered the best areas to live, schools to attend etc?
Any advice would be greatly received to help us make our decision
Hi, We're Brits and we live in Missouri. Just outside St Louis which is about a five hour drive from KC, the other side of the state basically.
Err, not to put a dampner on your plans but there are a few things to consider.
Firstly ; obviously the education of your kids and it seems that they are at a key crossroads for their academic careers so perhaps this isnt the best time for them to move, however, my kids are 4 and 2 so I cant really comment on that. Or on the US education system as we haven't entered it.
Secondly: Culturally the midwest is kind of erm, how can I say this, backwards. It is very, overtly religious. If that's your bag then cool but if you're used to living in a very secular society (ie the UK) then be prepared for a shock. I live in a small town and the folks here aint exactly friendly or welcoming to strangers. KC may be different but this part of the states is far from diverse culturally or ethnically. It is a far cry from the East or West coasts.
Thirdly: If you like driving then this is your place. Be prepared to get in your car for everything from grocery shopping, to going out for a meal, to going to the park, to school, everything. It is rare to see anyone walking

I am not trying to put you off but as the poster above mentioned its easy to look on the states with rose tinted specs. We feel that we know it already through all the TV shows etc we have watched over the years but that fantasy land on TV is very far from the reality.

Good luck whatever you decide.

PS If you can do another reccie
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Welcome to BE and good luck!

That's certainly a different change of pace.

Thing to consider, what visa's are you getting? If it's a company transfer, the spouse will be allowed to work, but the kids won't so only you will know how that'll affect them settling in when all their mates are working for pocket money, or working through college and they can't.

Do the kids plan on going to uni in the US or the UK? It'll be very expensive in the US and if they want to go in the UK, they need to be resident for 3 years in the EU prior to enrolling, the cost difference between home rates and international rates aren't that extreme anymore, but the difference is getting student loans which are much more favourable than private loans etc.

So might be a consideration for them to stay in the UK, especially the elder one...as the other thought would be greencards, would need to get the ball rolling pretty quickly on that front if you had plans to stay to ensure that the kids didn't age out, at 21 and then not have any status to stay in the US, well could go to student F visa, but then what would they do after.

I don't know what the public transport situation is like in Kansas, but at a guess, you'd probably want 3 cars, or be forever a taxi service for both kids, especially if they get involved in any after school programs.
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