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Steve_ Feb 21st 2014 10:35 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by jibsymalone (Post 11141554)
Sounds like it has Jacksonville beat already?
When you come down I-17 onto I-10 you can see all these glittering skyscrapers in the distance and you think: "oooh, that looks interesting" and then you pull into downtown and wonder why you did. And if it's the summer the objective seems to be to blind you with mirrored buildings at the same time you're about to die from heat exhaustion.

sir_eccles Feb 21st 2014 10:58 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
We're not doing a good job of selling Phoenix are we? That said, the AZ legislators don't make it easy to like this place.

Arcadia's not too bad.

Noorah101 Feb 21st 2014 11:00 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11141963)
We're not doing a good job of selling Phoenix are we?

Arcadia's not too bad.
I love the location of Phoenix in that it's a few hours south of pine trees and cooler weather in Flagstaff/Sedona/Grand Canyon. It's only about 5 hours to go east to even bigger mountains (White Mountains) with great skiiing in the winter, lots of small towns with forest and cabins, and then a couple of hours south to more deserty stuff if that's what you like.

Rene

sir_eccles Feb 21st 2014 11:01 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 11141966)
I love the location of Phoenix in that it's a few hours south of pine trees and cooler weather in Flagstaff/Sedona/Grand Canyon. It's only about 5 hours to go east to even bigger mountains (White Mountains) with great skiiing in the winter, lots of small towns with forest and cabins, and then a couple of hours south to more deserty stuff if that's what you like.

Rene
Oh yes, I'll just call up the Phoenix Tourist board and suggest a new slogan for them:

"Phoenix, it's close to other places"

Steve_ Feb 21st 2014 11:13 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
There are lots of things to do in Arizona, endless national monuments and parks, not sure that appeals to a young about-the-town couple.

I like the Apache Trail, I do laugh at Americans though who think it is a "tough" road.

Noorah101 Feb 21st 2014 12:23 pm
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11141970)
Oh yes, I'll just call up the Phoenix Tourist board and suggest a new slogan for them:

"Phoenix, it's close to other places"
LOL yeah, I guess that STILL wasn't a positive thing for Phoenix! LOL

Oh well, I do like living in Phoenix and so far in my travels haven't found anywhere else in the USA that I prefer. I did like Seattle, but maybe that's because I rarely see rain and I love rain. But if I saw it every day, I might not like it as much.

Rene

Steve_ Feb 22nd 2014 10:32 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Phoenix - slightly less old people per capita than Scottsdale;

Phoenix - where the term: "Sheriff's Posse" is still in common use;

Phoenix - highest tag fees in the country and we still only give you one licence plate;

Phoenix - where old white people gather together to moan about latino people;

Phoenix - the Sheriff of our county is 81 years old, which is considered middle-aged;

Phoenix - we built the ugliest State Capitol building just to piss off Frank Lloyd Wright;

Phoenix - we have so many immigrants that we put our USCIS office in a refurbished supermarket;

Phoenix - we're passing a State law to discriminate against gays, but one of our largest employers is Cox;

Phoenix - our convention centre has a Hooters!

Steve_ Feb 22nd 2014 10:33 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11141970)
"Phoenix, it's close to other places"
Yes you can go down to Nogales and look at that wide-open Schengen-style border that RoadWarriorLP was on about in the other thread.

sir_eccles Feb 22nd 2014 1:08 pm
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11143295)

Phoenix - we're passing a State law to discriminate against gays, but one of our largest employers is Cox!
Stealing that one.

SG1 Feb 22nd 2014 1:29 pm
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by ned1983 (Post 11140140)
Hi All,
Been a while since I posted, everything went well with my move to Los Angeles, then I became single and it took a while to get back to a point of happiness in myself and being around here....

Anyway, skip ahead 2 years and my partner of 5 months has been offered a great opportunity in Phoenix AZ. I like her a lot, want to be supportive but I am fearful (more so than of L.A or even Vegas, which was another option).

I have never been to Phoenix, I know nothing about it, good areas to live, bad areas to live. Will I drive more, less, the same as in Los Angeles?

I am 30 she is 28 and we both like upmarket restaurants and craft beers, from what I can see about Phoenix its one big suburbs which is great if you have kids. Not so great for people wanting a bit of excitement, but maybe I am wayyyy off the mark.

I had a quick look at the IT job market out there and it seems people get paid much less than in L.A. But the cost of living is considerably less too.

Hoping the ever mindful sages among you can give me some insight on nightlife, neighbourhoods and IT career prospects. Especially as the areas biggest employer is Walmart :(

Thanks all!
Ned
You have lower taxes, more freedoms, and more choices in the state of Arizona then California..

IT is growing in the South West for the following reasons

Cheap Land
Low Regulations
Low Taxes
Right to Work Laws
Low Power costs

Arizona, Nevada, Utah have all of those

California is regulation nation, and is hemorrhage jobs and job creators...

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 23rd 2014 12:38 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11143295)
Phoenix - highest tag fees in the country and we still only give you one licence plate;!
More then California now?

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 23rd 2014 12:44 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by SG1 (Post 11143453)
California is regulation nation, and is hemorrhage jobs and job creators...
Yes slightly better then California, but not by much. AZ ranks 42 vs California's 47.

I'd still rather live in California, couldn't pay me to live in AZ again.

Phoenix region is also losing at least one large corporate HQ and support jobs in the coming months, and will likely see a reduction in air service in the next 2-3 years, but you will have a nice big airport with empty gates. ;)

Steve_ Feb 24th 2014 4:18 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Phoenix is a better IT location because it is less disaster prone than California. That is the only real reason. Income taxes are a bit lower too.

More then California now?
Has been for a long time as far as I'm aware, Arizona has this weird two-tier fee, the registration fee then an add-on for the value of the vehicle so at first glance the fee looks really low but actually they're the highest in the US, AFAIK. This explains it, sort of: http://www.azdot.gov/media/blog/post...es-calculated-

I always think it's dumb because it makes people drive cars that are falling to bits, they'd earn more from sales tax revenue if people went out and bought new cars.

Steve_ Feb 24th 2014 4:23 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by SG1 (Post 11143453)
You have lower taxes, more freedoms, and more choices in the state of Arizona then California..
I think "more freedoms" is a relative term, okay you can carry a handgun concealed without a permit but they do like to crack down on immigrants and gays, etc. which works against them.

Cheap Land
Low Regulations
Low Taxes
Right to Work Laws
Low Power costs

Arizona, Nevada, Utah have all of those
And no water. How are the power costs lower? News to me.

Uncle_Bob Feb 24th 2014 4:55 am
Re: Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
 
Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11141925)
There's the Rose & Crown pub I think it is. Has some very pseudo British type food.
Just ate there yesterday. The place is going down hill, they are dropping British meals from the menu. They used to have the best sausage rolls but no longer sell them. Your are now limited to just bangers & mash, fish and chips and shepherds pie. I had the shepherds pie which was just OK but the menu said it comes with Yorkshire pudding which I was looking forward too but it never came :sneaky: I did have a nice couple of pints of Fullers ESB though.

You are much better off at the George and Dragon food wise.


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