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Old Jan 19th 2009, 9:50 pm
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I will have been a green card holder for five years and 2 days when I am 65

5 years is the qualifying time for medicare

It was no accident, we planned it that way when we left england

Apparently I will get both part A and part B if my spouse (USC) has a full contribution record

just Part A is very many thousands per annum without a qualification by self or spouse - about 8k last time i looked

ok question:

If I qualify at 65 on my spouses record, and a year later she dies or divorces me, do I still qualify because I qualified at the entry point > 65 ?

or would i lose my entitlement ?

Got to be prepared you know !
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The following is the only document that I have found concerning medicare for a qualifying deceased or divorced spouse.

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...Eligiblity.doc

It doesn't appear that a deceased spouse would be a problem but a divorced spouse may possibly be a problem.

I don't know where you got the 5 year requirement. The only thing I know about a 5 year requirement is for possible buy in to medicare.

You should call the social securitiy administration to get more accurate information.
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Originally Posted by Michael
The following is the only document that I have found concerning medicare for a qualifying deceased or divorced spouse.

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache...Eligiblity.doc

It doesn't appear that a deceased spouse would be a problem but a divorced spouse may possibly be a problem.

I don't know where you got the 5 year requirement. The only thing I know about a 5 year requirement is for possible buy in to medicare.

You should call the social securitiy administration to get more accurate information.
I will have to kill her then if she asks for a divorce !

kiddin honest

Thanks for that I will look into it

I am sure I saw something thats said I could not be in medicare if I had been resident less than 5 years - I will check it but I am sure I saw that

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I am knacked anyway as she has to be 62

She is 11 years younger that me - so even though she has worked from age 18, I am not eligible at all for 8 years after i am 65

wow this looks very expensive !

7 or 8k a year for both parts i reckon
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Originally Posted by exvj
I am knacked anyway as she has to be 62

She is 11 years younger that me - so even though she has worked from age 18, I am not eligible at all for 8 years after i am 65

wow this looks very expensive !

7 or 8k a year for both parts i reckon
Divorce her and marry someone older.

I do wonder how many "marriages of convenience" take place in the US for the purpose of Social Security and Medicare elegibility...
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Divorce her and marry someone older.

I do wonder how many "marriages of convenience" take place in the US for the purpose of Social Security and Medicare elegibility...
Sorry idiot but you are barking up the wrong tree

WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR MARRIAGES ON THE TINY AMOUNT OF INFO YOU HAVE ? YOU ARE REPULSIVE

I have 3 pensions in payment guaranteed by the UK government and a ton of money in the bank

I am dead tight about paying insurance so thats why i am interested in this - but you are bloody impertinent to think I got married for some crummy american social security benefit like medicare when I come from a country with excellent FREE benefits

take your bitter nasty impertinent thoughts and shove em - yuk

ps i cant and wont be claiming social security thicko

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Originally Posted by exvj
Sorry idiot but you are barking up the wrong tree

WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR MARRIAGES ON THE TINY AMOUNT OF INFO YOU HAVE ? YOU ARE REPULSIVE
Lol, and you are a complete clown for taking that comment literally. Obviously it was meant tongue in cheek.

Originally Posted by exvj
ps i cant and wont be claiming social security thicko
Never said you would be.

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Originally Posted by exvj
I am knacked anyway as she has to be 62

She is 11 years younger that me - so even though she has worked from age 18, I am not eligible at all for 8 years after i am 65

wow this looks very expensive !

7 or 8k a year for both parts i reckon
I didn't think that was correct but it is verified on the official social security web site.

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/...i=&p_topview=1
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Originally Posted by exvj
Sorry idiot but you are barking up the wrong tree

WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR MARRIAGES ON THE TINY AMOUNT OF INFO YOU HAVE ? YOU ARE REPULSIVE

I have 3 pensions in payment guaranteed by the UK government and a ton of money in the bank

I am dead tight about paying insurance so thats why i am interested in this - but you are bloody impertinent to think I got married for some crummy american social security benefit like medicare when I come from a country with excellent FREE benefits

take your bitter nasty impertinent thoughts and shove em - yuk

ps i cant and wont be claiming social security thicko
Wow... overreact to a joke much??
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Originally Posted by exvj
Sorry idiot but you are barking up the wrong tree

WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR MARRIAGES ON THE TINY AMOUNT OF INFO YOU HAVE ? YOU ARE REPULSIVE

I have 3 pensions in payment guaranteed by the UK government and a ton of money in the bank

I am dead tight about paying insurance so thats why i am interested in this - but you are bloody impertinent to think I got married for some crummy american social security benefit like medicare when I come from a country with excellent FREE benefits

take your bitter nasty impertinent thoughts and shove em - yuk

ps i cant and wont be claiming social security thicko
Where did all that come from?
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
I do wonder how many "marriages of convenience" take place in the US for the purpose of Social Security and Medicare elegibility...
I've heard that it's not uncommon, and not just for medicare/SS. Health insurance is the main reason I've read about.
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Whoa birdie

You are reading his response incorrectly. Back up a minute, take a deep breathe and prepare to apologize. He was not accusing you of doing this but was wondering out loud about the number of marriages made for this reason.


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Sorry idiot but you are barking up the wrong tree

WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE AND THEIR MARRIAGES ON THE TINY AMOUNT OF INFO YOU HAVE ? YOU ARE REPULSIVE

I have 3 pensions in payment guaranteed by the UK government and a ton of money in the bank

I am dead tight about paying insurance so thats why i am interested in this - but you are bloody impertinent to think I got married for some crummy american social security benefit like medicare when I come from a country with excellent FREE benefits

take your bitter nasty impertinent thoughts and shove em - yuk

ps i cant and wont be claiming social security thicko
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Why not apply for citizenship?

As for the outburst got to agree with the others that you must've read the post wrong, they weren't accusing you of anything just wondering how many people would do as they suggested and re-marry just to get more benefits.
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Look - I am a 61 year old guy who is trying to figure out my health care when I am 65.

Why would this person make a comment about people coming to America to sponge off the american taxpayer in respect to medicare as a response to my post ?

I think I have every right to be highly offended

My USC wife knows I would leap at the chance of going back to the UK if her circumstances made it possible. I am here for her, so to have someone insinuate that I am here to 'use' the system is totally unwarranted

Also, my USC wife lived in the UK with me and availed herself, quite rightly, of the free national health system. I paid a minimum of £24,000 tax every year for decades in the UK

So for me to get some benefit in the USA on her coat tails would only be fair

However, it seems i will have to pay 6 to 8 k per annum as i will not be entitled as she was in the UK

His comments were inappropriate

As for it being a 'joke', that's what every office groper says and sometimes they get away with it and sometimes someone calls them on it

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Why? Because they are Brits and that is their way of being humoress. Took me a long time to get use to it. Again, he was not saying you.

I feel for you because my hubby who is a Canadian and now US citizen cannot/could not use my SS accummulation even though I was born a USC and have worked for nearly 43 years. He is now nearly 68 and still have to work full time in order to qualify under his own SS credits.




Originally Posted by exvj
Look - I am a 61 year old guy who is trying to figure out my health care when I am 65.

Why would this person make a comment about people coming to America to sponge off the american taxpayer in respect to medicare as a response to my post ?

I think I have every right to be highly offended

My USC wife knows I would leap at the chance of going back to the UK if her circumstances made it possible. I am here for her, so to have someone insinuate that I am here to 'use' the system is totally unwarranted

Also, my USC wife lived in the UK with me and availed herself, quite rightly, of the free national health system. I paid a minimum of £24,000 tax every year for decades in the UK

So for me to get some benefit in the USA on her coat tails would only be fair

However, it seems i will have to pay 6 to 8 k per annum as i will not be entitled as she was in the UK

His comments were inappropriate

As for it being a 'joke', that's what every office groper says and sometimes they get away with it and sometimes someone calls them on it
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