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maybe its an age thing but there seems so much red tape!

Old Jan 9th 2015, 11:01 pm
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Red face maybe its an age thing but there seems so much red tape!

I've just joined this site and it has been a mine of information so thank you! I had decided to almost retire early and join my son in Kansas this year but after getting quotes from removers and reading the regulations on importing my household contents and i would need to leave all my electricals ...wow! Then there is medical insurance or Obama Care-what one do i get if i am not going to work full time, and moving my money across..... Phht the headache continues

Can I do it on my own at 57, what do I do about not having proof for my furniture that is over a year old (and its items i have sentimental attachment to)what do I ...well all the rest of the what's.

Thought I would be moving in few months but realistically take longer than that.

Has anyone moved a full house across by themselves and lived to tell the tale? I wonder.
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Old Jan 9th 2015, 11:18 pm
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Well I assume your son has sponsored you in, we had this thread the other day about healthcare, yes you have to buy it, www.healthcare.gov

I wouldn't get too wound up about household effects, CBP don't really care, except for alcohol, drugs (and tobacco), vehicles and firearms (and a few other doodads, say you've got some ivory). Just make sure the packing list is accurate (misrepresentation is a crime). You can usually import alcohol, tobacco and firearms, you just have to fill in the relevant forms. Which for alcohol (say you have a wine collection) is a State form, you usually have to pay duty.

There are loads of freight forwarders and shipping companies that deal with this sort of thing, although if your situation is simple you can just hire a 55 foot container and bung it all in there. Just make sure you get insurance.
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Old Jan 9th 2015, 11:42 pm
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Thanks for your reply. I don't drink so no alcohol and no firearms so I'm OK on the prohibited side of it. The main thing was proving I've had furniture over a year.will be a container as I want to take full house. Should speak to removers more I guess.
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The main thing was proving I've had furniture over a year.
If that's your main worry then you're lucky! Seriously though, I don't even recall the question coming up.
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I don't believe that there is any requirement to *prove* up front that you have owned things for over a year. You and your shipper create the necessary paperwork describing your household effects and, if asked, assert that you have owned them for more than a year - end of story.
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Importing your "stuff" is one of the easiest bits, barely any harder than moving within the UK. Men show up, pack your stuff in boxes, wrap your furniture. Then it reappears at the address you nominate in the US.
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But in response to your title...yes, there is indeed so much red tape in life these days.

Computer says no...
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Get rid of your UK electrics except your computer, and get a voltage /hertz transformer if it doesn't already have dual voltage/hertz rating. If you sell your stuff, put the money towards buying new electrics here.
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The Scottish borders to Kansas.... well that certainly is a change
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Get rid of your UK electrics except your computer, and get a voltage /hertz transformer if it doesn't already have dual voltage/hertz rating. If you sell your stuff, put the money towards buying new electrics here.
There's no such thing as a Hertz converter, at least not for home/ consumer purposes.

Most electrical devices are tolerant of 50Hz and 60Hz. Anything with a clock might not keep time correctly, and electric motors, if not rated for both frequencies, might run at the wrong speed and so could potentially become a fire hazard.
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Default Re: maybe its an age thing but there seems so much red tape!

I'm sure your son will have everything you need already, and stuff like hairdryers, clock radios etc- pretty cheap here. And he'll know how you organize other stuff like cellphone driver license etc.

Re. healthcare, people who have been here years still don't have a clue what's going on with that so don't worry, and just be prepared to plough through it.
It's a lot different than UK that's for sure.
Anyone can also buy private insurance now, which is more expensive ( no subsidies ) but would buy some time to get established. Will you have taxable income when you first live here, obamacare is based on that; but if your income is too low pushes people onto Medicaid...which new immigrants used to be ineligible for?- that's one question I would ask about. There are also companies which sell short-term policies for new immigrants which can cover you for an emergency but probably won't qualify to miss the tax penalty for not having an ACA-compliant plan...

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Originally Posted by civilservant View Post
The Scottish borders to Kansas.... well that certainly is a change
Naw...they both start with 'K'. Familiarity...
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Default Re: maybe its an age thing but there seems so much red tape!

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I don't believe that there is any requirement to *prove* up front that you have owned things for over a year. You and your shipper create the necessary paperwork describing your household effects and, if asked, assert that you have owned them for more than a year - end of story.
Yup, just done it. Tick the box on the form and sign it. No other proof requested.

I think it's in place to deter more commercial activities for import etc rather than household moves.
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Well, Thankyou for your input.

M actually OKabout having to leave my electricals- my daughter in law has told me it will be fun shopping for them all again .
Yep sScottish borders to Augusta Kansasis a bit differant, originally from gGlasgow and an ex army wife so moving doesn't hold that many scaries
Had a look at the medical questionair and that was a bit of an eye opener. Have a few problems on that side so it might all have been in vain. DDon't know if I would pass it as I have a few issues although nothing contagious . I'm4 yrs into a 5yr check up after cancer so shall have to take advice on whether im better waiting till I get the all clear.....
Gives me a year to sort the rest out tho
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Yeah, just another thought occurred to me - the reason CBP don't really care that much about personal effects is because there is no equivalent to VAT in the US. But they have to collect import duty, alcohol being the main thing.

Try doing the same thing with Canada and you will have a very different experience... omg... CBSA inspector McScrooge will make your life a living hell.

The main issue you're going to have is healthcare - there is an underlying reason the US doesn't care as much as other countries about people sponsoring their parents in - you're not eligible for any benefits. As you've never worked in the US you've never paid any payroll taxes, so you won't be eligible for Social Security (but you can still claim your UK state pension) however to begin with you will have to pay for health insurance (about $250 a month for anything halfway decent) and once you hit 65 you will have to get Medicare and pay the Part A premium which is $407 per month and you're going to want more than just Part A: Medicare 2015 costs at a glance | Medicare.gov

I'm4 yrs into a 5yr check up after cancer so shall have to take advice on whether im better waiting till I get the all clear.....
That isn't the issue - all they really care about for immigration is whether you have a contagious disease. But if you've got cancer, your healthcare costs will be very serious indeed. The US has by far the highest price for prescription drugs in the world. Seriously have a look at www.healthcare.gov and see what's what before you even think of moving to the US. Have your son go to the local pharmacy and check on the prices for any drugs you take.

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