Maintaining UK bank accounts and Credit cards
#31
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Maybe would be a good idea to have a parent added onto the account so they could go in for you if you have any problems.
#32
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When we moved, I informed NatWest of our US address and also gave my parents power of attorney over our accounts. NatWest send us a quarterly statement if there is no account activity, or a monthly statement in months when there's a transaction on our accounts.
We've been here nearly 4 years now, and in that time neither my wife nor I have used our NatWest credit cards, but they both still show to be active on the NatWest online banking site. Since NatWest hasn't sent me anything to say that the cards are "dead through non-use", I'm guessing that Elvira is... guessing.
#33
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One of my UK was cancelled because of non-use.... can't remember which one..and another which was MBNA I had to pay a small annual fee to keep it active ..
#34
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Does anyone have any proof of this?
When we moved, I informed NatWest of our US address and also gave my parents power of attorney over our accounts. NatWest send us a quarterly statement if there is no account activity, or a monthly statement in months when there's a transaction on our accounts.
We've been here nearly 4 years now, and in that time neither my wife nor I have used our NatWest credit cards, but they both still show to be active on the NatWest online banking site. Since NatWest hasn't sent me anything to say that the cards are "dead through non-use", I'm guessing that Elvira is... guessing.
When we moved, I informed NatWest of our US address and also gave my parents power of attorney over our accounts. NatWest send us a quarterly statement if there is no account activity, or a monthly statement in months when there's a transaction on our accounts.
We've been here nearly 4 years now, and in that time neither my wife nor I have used our NatWest credit cards, but they both still show to be active on the NatWest online banking site. Since NatWest hasn't sent me anything to say that the cards are "dead through non-use", I'm guessing that Elvira is... guessing.
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Re: Maintaining UK bank accounts and Credit cards
Does anyone have any proof of this?
When we moved, I informed NatWest of our US address and also gave my parents power of attorney over our accounts. NatWest send us a quarterly statement if there is no account activity, or a monthly statement in months when there's a transaction on our accounts.
We've been here nearly 4 years now, and in that time neither my wife nor I have used our NatWest credit cards, but they both still show to be active on the NatWest online banking site. Since NatWest hasn't sent me anything to say that the cards are "dead through non-use", I'm guessing that Elvira is... guessing.
When we moved, I informed NatWest of our US address and also gave my parents power of attorney over our accounts. NatWest send us a quarterly statement if there is no account activity, or a monthly statement in months when there's a transaction on our accounts.
We've been here nearly 4 years now, and in that time neither my wife nor I have used our NatWest credit cards, but they both still show to be active on the NatWest online banking site. Since NatWest hasn't sent me anything to say that the cards are "dead through non-use", I'm guessing that Elvira is... guessing.
While some financial insitutions are happy to keep accounts open if you move, some are not - especially if you you have loans or cards. If you stop paying them back then it is difficult for them to enforce the debt. I never told anyone and the statements etc get redirected in the mail.
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Re: Maintaining UK bank accounts and Credit cards
I kept one of my bank accounts registered at my old address but did not use it for a few years. When the debit card came up for renewal, they sent me a cashcard instead. When I called to enquire I was told that my account had been downgraded to a 'basic' account due to inactivity.
A basic account is as good to me as no account as you can do F-All with it.
#37
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One thing many of us should probably consider that I haven't seen discussed here is death duty. If the Inland Revenue can show domicile in the UK they will try to claim taxes from your estate. UK bank accounts, credit cards, cell phones etc have apparently all been used in the past as a way to show this.
I gather that the tax treaty doesn't cover death duty so you could be leaving your heirs less than you think if you leave accounts in the UK.
Disclaimer - This was pointed out to me by a mixed marriage (USC/UKC) friend who works in this field but I haven't done anything with the knowledge yet so I'm very hazy on the details - if anyone knows more I'd be very interested to hear it.
I gather that the tax treaty doesn't cover death duty so you could be leaving your heirs less than you think if you leave accounts in the UK.
Disclaimer - This was pointed out to me by a mixed marriage (USC/UKC) friend who works in this field but I haven't done anything with the knowledge yet so I'm very hazy on the details - if anyone knows more I'd be very interested to hear it.
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Re: Maintaining UK bank accounts and Credit cards
One thing many of us should probably consider that I haven't seen discussed here is death duty. If the Inland Revenue can show domicile in the UK they will try to claim taxes from your estate. UK bank accounts, credit cards, cell phones etc have apparently all been used in the past as a way to show this.
I gather that the tax treaty doesn't cover death duty so you could be leaving your heirs less than you think if you leave accounts in the UK.
Disclaimer - This was pointed out to me by a mixed marriage (USC/UKC) friend who works in this field but I haven't done anything with the knowledge yet so I'm very hazy on the details - if anyone knows more I'd be very interested to hear it.
I gather that the tax treaty doesn't cover death duty so you could be leaving your heirs less than you think if you leave accounts in the UK.
Disclaimer - This was pointed out to me by a mixed marriage (USC/UKC) friend who works in this field but I haven't done anything with the knowledge yet so I'm very hazy on the details - if anyone knows more I'd be very interested to hear it.
#40
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Personally I wouldn't go down that route if I were you - use your mum's addy - much less hassle.
The company in question was Egg - I regularly took advantage of their balance transfer offers - then after about 9 months of only US transactions they called my mum and dad's house to ask where I lived.
I went ballistic and phoned them back to ask what was going on. They said that they suspected that I was no longer a UK resident and were putting a bar on the account until I returned. I told them to stick their bar up their proverbial and paid the account off then and their.
Had no such probs with 2 other UK cards.
The company in question was Egg - I regularly took advantage of their balance transfer offers - then after about 9 months of only US transactions they called my mum and dad's house to ask where I lived.
I went ballistic and phoned them back to ask what was going on. They said that they suspected that I was no longer a UK resident and were putting a bar on the account until I returned. I told them to stick their bar up their proverbial and paid the account off then and their.
Had no such probs with 2 other UK cards.
#41
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One thing many of us should probably consider that I haven't seen discussed here is death duty. If the Inland Revenue can show domicile in the UK they will try to claim taxes from your estate. UK bank accounts, credit cards, cell phones etc have apparently all been used in the past as a way to show this.
I gather that the tax treaty doesn't cover death duty so you could be leaving your heirs less than you think if you leave accounts in the UK.
Disclaimer - This was pointed out to me by a mixed marriage (USC/UKC) friend who works in this field but I haven't done anything with the knowledge yet so I'm very hazy on the details - if anyone knows more I'd be very interested to hear it.
I gather that the tax treaty doesn't cover death duty so you could be leaving your heirs less than you think if you leave accounts in the UK.
Disclaimer - This was pointed out to me by a mixed marriage (USC/UKC) friend who works in this field but I haven't done anything with the knowledge yet so I'm very hazy on the details - if anyone knows more I'd be very interested to hear it.
One work-around is to move sterling accounts to banks in the Isle of Man or Channel Islands.
In any case, retention of a bank account in the United Kingdom does not necessarily preclude acquisition of a foreign domicile. And as noted, even if the Inland Revenue could "win" that argument it's not at all clear how the Inland Revenue would have any basis to tax a foreign-located estate without the co-operation of the local authorities.
Last edited by JAJ; Feb 7th 2007 at 1:56 am.
#42
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Re: Maintaining UK bank accounts and Credit cards
Hi All,
I'm finally moving over to join my wife and so the real business of sorting things out is beginning.
I want to keep our UK accounts open and also our credit cards just in case we have to come back anytime soon. I can change my address to my Mum's but was wondering if there are any issues with this?
Are there any tips you could give us?
Thanks,
Scott
I'm finally moving over to join my wife and so the real business of sorting things out is beginning.
I want to keep our UK accounts open and also our credit cards just in case we have to come back anytime soon. I can change my address to my Mum's but was wondering if there are any issues with this?
Are there any tips you could give us?
Thanks,
Scott
I gave my UK bank and UK credit card companies my US address and there isn't a problem. The credit card companies even send an "international" repayment envelope with their statements.
Cheers
Brync
#43
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No idea - as I said, my friend, who is a City banker and has looked into this for his own situation, says there is case law on it and a slight danger that it can happen. He advised taking the UKC off our UK accounts and just holding them in the name of the USC. Domicile is certainly not unitary in the eyes of the IR - so proving domicile somewhere else isn't the same as proving you are (were) not domiciled in the UK.
#44
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Like most have already replied, no issues. Just keep them informed of your address.
I even took out a UK loan with my Credit Card company (a little debt while waiting for my EAD then GC) while in the US. As long as you have accounts through them, it's not a problem.
I even took out a UK loan with my Credit Card company (a little debt while waiting for my EAD then GC) while in the US. As long as you have accounts through them, it's not a problem.
#45
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We still have a hefty overdraft facility with our bank...never used it but it's still available.