Lost Naturalization Certificate
Aug 5th 2013, 5:29 pm
#1
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Lost Naturalization Certificate
Hello,
I have lost naturalization certificate but after getting my US passport. I have three or four copies but cant find the original one and my US password will get expire in few years.
Do i need a certificate again to renew my passport?
Do i need Naturalization Certificate again for any purpose (i have a copy)?
I would appreciate your experience.
Thank you
-Za
I have lost naturalization certificate but after getting my US passport. I have three or four copies but cant find the original one and my US password will get expire in few years.
Do i need a certificate again to renew my passport?
Do i need Naturalization Certificate again for any purpose (i have a copy)?
I would appreciate your experience.
Thank you
-Za
Aug 5th 2013, 5:53 pm
#2
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,439
Re: Lost Naturalization Certificate
Do far as I know, once you have your passport you can frame it as wall art, or throw darts at it; it has no further purpose with respect to matters of citizenship and passports.
Aug 5th 2013, 8:19 pm
#3
Concierge
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 46,382
Re: Lost Naturalization Certificate
Believe you mean naturalization certificate.
You do not have to show your naturalization certificate to renew your US Passport.
Aug 6th 2013, 5:44 pm
#4
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Location: Los Angeles, California
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Re: Lost Naturalization Certificate
A few years back, the State Bar of Missouri required that Naturalized U.S. Citizen present their naturalization certificate and would not accept a U.S.Passport as proof of citizenship.
This is their rule: Proof of Citizenship or Prescribed Alien Status
Rule 8.03(a)(4) requires all applicants must be either a citizen or national of the United States, an immigrant lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or an alien otherwise authorized to work lawfully in the United States. If you are a U.S. citizen, provide a CERTIFIED birth certificate, a CERTIFIED Consular Report of Birth, or a copy of your Certificate of Citizenship. Our office will retain these documents and they will not be returned to you. You should obtain a CERTIFIED birth certificate from the appropriate government office in the state where you were born. You can visit www.vitalrec.com to locate the appropriate office. If you are a naturalized citizen, a lawful permanent resident, or an alien authorized to work in the U.S., provide a legible copy of both sides of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) document evidencing your current status - we will use it to verify your status through USCIS. We cannot accept a copy of your passport as proof of citizenship because USCIS will not verify status on the basis of a passport. You will need to provide a copy of your Certificate of Naturalization or Certificate of Citizenship. NOTE: An Optional Practical Training (OPT) authorization is considered part of the educational purpose of a non-resident student visa. It is not a work visa and is not considered by the Board of Law Examiners as satisfying the requirement of Rule 8.03(a)(4).
I don't think this is legal.
This is their rule: Proof of Citizenship or Prescribed Alien Status
Rule 8.03(a)(4) requires all applicants must be either a citizen or national of the United States, an immigrant lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or an alien otherwise authorized to work lawfully in the United States. If you are a U.S. citizen, provide a CERTIFIED birth certificate, a CERTIFIED Consular Report of Birth, or a copy of your Certificate of Citizenship. Our office will retain these documents and they will not be returned to you. You should obtain a CERTIFIED birth certificate from the appropriate government office in the state where you were born. You can visit www.vitalrec.com to locate the appropriate office. If you are a naturalized citizen, a lawful permanent resident, or an alien authorized to work in the U.S., provide a legible copy of both sides of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) document evidencing your current status - we will use it to verify your status through USCIS. We cannot accept a copy of your passport as proof of citizenship because USCIS will not verify status on the basis of a passport. You will need to provide a copy of your Certificate of Naturalization or Certificate of Citizenship. NOTE: An Optional Practical Training (OPT) authorization is considered part of the educational purpose of a non-resident student visa. It is not a work visa and is not considered by the Board of Law Examiners as satisfying the requirement of Rule 8.03(a)(4).
I don't think this is legal.
Aug 6th 2013, 5:58 pm
#5
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Re: Lost Naturalization Certificate
Yeah that's ridiculous.
Hasn't it always been understood by everyone here that a US Passport is proof of citizenship? And a US passport holder cannot be denied entry to the US etc etc ?
Hasn't it always been understood by everyone here that a US Passport is proof of citizenship? And a US passport holder cannot be denied entry to the US etc etc ?
Aug 6th 2013, 5:58 pm
#6
Mouthy Yank
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,229
Re: Lost Naturalization Certificate
A few years back, the State Bar of Missouri required that Naturalized U.S. Citizen present their naturalization certificate and would not accept a U.S.Passport as proof of citizenship.
This is their rule: Proof of Citizenship or Prescribed Alien Status
Rule 8.03(a)(4) requires all applicants must be either a citizen or national of the United States, an immigrant lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or an alien otherwise authorized to work lawfully in the United States. If you are a U.S. citizen, provide a CERTIFIED birth certificate, a CERTIFIED Consular Report of Birth, or a copy of your Certificate of Citizenship. Our office will retain these documents and they will not be returned to you. You should obtain a CERTIFIED birth certificate from the appropriate government office in the state where you were born. You can visit www.vitalrec.com to locate the appropriate office. If you are a naturalized citizen, a lawful permanent resident, or an alien authorized to work in the U.S., provide a legible copy of both sides of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) document evidencing your current status - we will use it to verify your status through USCIS. We cannot accept a copy of your passport as proof of citizenship because USCIS will not verify status on the basis of a passport. You will need to provide a copy of your Certificate of Naturalization or Certificate of Citizenship. NOTE: An Optional Practical Training (OPT) authorization is considered part of the educational purpose of a non-resident student visa. It is not a work visa and is not considered by the Board of Law Examiners as satisfying the requirement of Rule 8.03(a)(4).
I don't think this is legal.
This is their rule: Proof of Citizenship or Prescribed Alien Status
Rule 8.03(a)(4) requires all applicants must be either a citizen or national of the United States, an immigrant lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or an alien otherwise authorized to work lawfully in the United States. If you are a U.S. citizen, provide a CERTIFIED birth certificate, a CERTIFIED Consular Report of Birth, or a copy of your Certificate of Citizenship. Our office will retain these documents and they will not be returned to you. You should obtain a CERTIFIED birth certificate from the appropriate government office in the state where you were born. You can visit www.vitalrec.com to locate the appropriate office. If you are a naturalized citizen, a lawful permanent resident, or an alien authorized to work in the U.S., provide a legible copy of both sides of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) document evidencing your current status - we will use it to verify your status through USCIS. We cannot accept a copy of your passport as proof of citizenship because USCIS will not verify status on the basis of a passport. You will need to provide a copy of your Certificate of Naturalization or Certificate of Citizenship. NOTE: An Optional Practical Training (OPT) authorization is considered part of the educational purpose of a non-resident student visa. It is not a work visa and is not considered by the Board of Law Examiners as satisfying the requirement of Rule 8.03(a)(4).
I don't think this is legal.
Aug 7th 2013, 6:12 am
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Re: Lost Naturalization Certificate
85 quid for a replacement!!!!
Aug 7th 2013, 12:30 pm
#9
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,439
Re: Lost Naturalization Certificate
Same as if anyone else lost theirs, once you're "in the system" the naturalization certificate has no necessarily useful purpose.
Edit: per post below, I may be wrong, because it looks like it might be useful whenever a USC is asked for their birth certificate, to prove their credentials as a USC.
Edit: per post below, I may be wrong, because it looks like it might be useful whenever a USC is asked for their birth certificate, to prove their credentials as a USC.
Last edited by Pulaski; Aug 7th 2013 at 12:49 pm.
Aug 7th 2013, 12:45 pm
#10
Joined: Dec 2001
Location: Dixie, ex UK
Posts: 52,439
Re: Lost Naturalization Certificate
A few years back, the State Bar of Missouri required that Naturalized U.S. Citizen present their naturalization certificate and would not accept a U.S.Passport as proof of citizenship.
This is their rule: Proof of Citizenship or Prescribed Alien Status
Rule 8.03(a)(4) requires all applicants must be either a citizen or national of the United States, an immigrant lawfully admitted for permanent residence, ...... It is not a work visa and is not considered by the Board of Law Examiners as satisfying the requirement of Rule 8.03(a)(4).
I don't think this is legal.
This is their rule: Proof of Citizenship or Prescribed Alien Status
Rule 8.03(a)(4) requires all applicants must be either a citizen or national of the United States, an immigrant lawfully admitted for permanent residence, ...... It is not a work visa and is not considered by the Board of Law Examiners as satisfying the requirement of Rule 8.03(a)(4).
I don't think this is legal.
