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Old Dec 17th 2014, 2:45 pm
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With the release of long term US prisoner, The White House is going to normalise relations. Including, allowing citizens to spend USD in Cuba.

U.S. Moves to Normalize Cuba Relations as American Is Released - WSJ
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Nice..I think I'd enjoy a visit.
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Only 50 years too late but good to see it finally happening...
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I wouldn't get too excited, I'm sure congress will vote to block it come January.
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles View Post
I wouldn't get too excited, I'm sure congress will vote to block it come January.
I think Obama's on the right side of this one and I have to laugh at stuff like this from Sen Rubio:

It's absurd and it's part of a long record of coddling dictators and tyrants that this administration has established," Rubio said.

Rubio said he would "make every effort to block this dangerous and desperate attempt" in his capacity as the Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's Western Hemisphere subcommittee, which he will assume once the new Congress convenes in January.
Yeh, they could well block it, but really the time for this is long overdue.
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe View Post
I think Obama's on the right side of this one and I have to laugh at stuff like this from Sen Rubio:



Yeh, they could well block it, but really the time for this is long overdue.
I dunno, I really think they are about to crack. I say we give it another 50 years.
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Actually the Wash Post is reporting business travel only, no tourists for now.

What you will and won’t be able to do now that Obama is opening relations with Cuba - The Washington Post
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In truth, Americans already outnumber tourists from any other country in Cuba. They just fly out of Mexico or Canada and Cuba does not stamp their passport.

I applaud Obama for this. The only thing that has prevented this from happening sooner is the Cuban vote in the all important fight for electoral votes in Florida. Running scared of old Cubans. The younger ones, born in the U.S., do not generally hold such disdain for normalizing relations with the country.

Those who go on and on about the Castro regime are either ignorant of history or choose to ignore it. The revolution took place against one of the most brutal dictators in the world at the time. Fulgencio Batista. Host to every Mafia boss in the country, recipient of massive U.S. aid that was in the form of weapons, thief, murderer who killed an estimated 20,000 Cubans over a 7 year period and recipient of U.S. corporate largess for giving over the country to U.S. corporate interests.

I think JFK said it best:

"I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country's policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear. ”

— U.S. President John F. Kennedy, to Jean Daniel

I suspect most of the Cubans that fled soon after the revolution were those who were benefiting from Batistas' brutal regime. So they do not count. Now Castro did his share of wrong, but he was a pussycat compared to Batista. More than 50 years of failed policy. About time it came to an end. We do business on a daily basis with regimes far worse, and always have.

And of course, all Cubans have health care. Interesting article here about that. Cuba's Health Care System: a Model for the World | Salim Lamrani
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Originally Posted by penguinsix View Post
Actually the Wash Post is reporting business travel only, no tourists for now.

Oh good, tax deductible then...
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Might as well just move to Florida then , going to like Little Cuba there soon anyhow .
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Default Re: Looks like US citizens can travel to Cuba

US citizens go to Cuba all the time. You can fly to Cuba from anywhere but the US.

I understand Cuban customs welcomes US citizens snd doesn't stamp US passports.
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Default Re: Looks like US citizens can travel to Cuba

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US citizens go to Cuba all the time. You can fly to Cuba from anywhere but the US.

I understand Cuban customs welcomes US citizens snd doesn't stamp US passports.
Very true. More American tourists there than from any other country. Just don't bring anything back.
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Very true. More American tourists there than from any other country. Just don't bring anything back.
Or get caught spending money there :/
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Or get caught spending money there :/
That is actually the subject of the ban. Not going there, but spending money there. But you cannot go there and not spend money, clearly. Hotel, food, airport tax etc. But no one from the State Dept or anywhere else is following Americans around to check on their spending there. You sure cannot use a debit or credit card though, although banks are not allowed to accept transactions from there anyway.
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I've talked to a few USCs who did get their passports stamped. So be careful.
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