Local tragedy
Nov 13th 2005, 5:28 am
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by Bob
only one having guns to the public? I thought gets were pretty easy to get hold of in Canada as well...
but not handguns ...
Nov 13th 2005, 6:15 am
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by Ray
Gets .. no!!! there called guns .... Long guns are easy in Canada ..
but not handguns ...
but not handguns ...
guns are pretty easy to get in the EU, doesn't seem to be such a rampant issue over there though...
Nov 13th 2005, 1:24 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by Ray
Not quite as sweet as you make it out to be ..
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/guncontrol_20010302.html
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/guncontrol_20010302.html
Nov 13th 2005, 1:27 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by Boiler
UK 62, do not believe it!
I have had a gun pointed at me, but not in US.
Can not mention details of the assailant as I do not want to be considered racist.
Now shit can happen wherever you are, all I know is that I feel a lot safer here than in London.
I have had a gun pointed at me, but not in US.
Can not mention details of the assailant as I do not want to be considered racist.
Now shit can happen wherever you are, all I know is that I feel a lot safer here than in London.
Nov 13th 2005, 1:32 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by dbj1000
Does your social circle post surveillance to watch for social outcasts who shop at Wally World then?
Personally, I hate the place, and would never shop there out of choice, but if I did I'm at a loss to know how my friends and neighbors would know!
Personally, I hate the place, and would never shop there out of choice, but if I did I'm at a loss to know how my friends and neighbors would know!
Nov 13th 2005, 1:37 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by Ray
Murder is murder ... how its done ..does not really matter ...
Nov 13th 2005, 2:27 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Getting knifed is a much higher risk than being shot in the UK. Although gun crime is fast rising. Most UK police now wear covert body armour as standard issue - we had it for a couple of years for all beat officers and not just AFO's before I left. The majority were initially for protection against bladed weapons however most forces are now switching to combined bladed/ballistic armour. You would all be very surprised at how often we faced lethal weapons of all kinds on a day to day basis in sleepy old UK. Luckily the public are as of yet not so exposed. I would say I was personally involved in half a dozen firearms incidents and probably several hundred other weapons (eg knives, clubs, crowbars etc) incidents.
By the way Partstar I can guaruntee that you would not prefer to have someone hacking at you with a 10" carving knife. A well (or even poorly) weilded knife can do immense damage and is a terrifying thing to have to defend against. As are clubs, broken bottles, pieces of 2 by 4 with nails in them, etc.
By the way Partstar I can guaruntee that you would not prefer to have someone hacking at you with a 10" carving knife. A well (or even poorly) weilded knife can do immense damage and is a terrifying thing to have to defend against. As are clubs, broken bottles, pieces of 2 by 4 with nails in them, etc.
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Nov 13th 2005, 2:35 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
By the way Partstar I can guaruntee that you would not prefer to have someone hacking at you with a 10" carving knife. A well (or even poorly) weilded knife can do immense damage and is a terrifying thing to have to defend against. As are clubs, broken bottles, pieces of 2 by 4 with nails in them, etc.
I would imagine so.....especially considering that crime against that pregnant mother who was stabbed.....pretty horrifying.
Btw AWP, I didn't know you were police person.
Nov 13th 2005, 2:41 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
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By the way Partstar I can guaruntee that you would not prefer to have someone hacking at you with a 10" carving knife. A well (or even poorly) weilded knife can do immense damage and is a terrifying thing to have to defend against. As are clubs, broken bottles, pieces of 2 by 4 with nails in them, etc.[/QUOTE]
don't know about partstar but I for one would rather have someone come at me with one of those weapons rather than a gun......surley you can't be
serious????......your legs can get you away from all of those weapons but you can't run faster than a bullet
By the way Partstar I can guaruntee that you would not prefer to have someone hacking at you with a 10" carving knife. A well (or even poorly) weilded knife can do immense damage and is a terrifying thing to have to defend against. As are clubs, broken bottles, pieces of 2 by 4 with nails in them, etc.[/QUOTE]
don't know about partstar but I for one would rather have someone come at me with one of those weapons rather than a gun......surley you can't be
serious????......your legs can get you away from all of those weapons but you can't run faster than a bullet
Nov 13th 2005, 2:48 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
As are clubs, broken bottles, pieces of 2 by 4 with nails in them, etc.
Nov 13th 2005, 2:49 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
You've met my ex, while she was pre-menstrual then?
Nov 13th 2005, 5:49 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by BritGuyTN
Please don't give me the rascist crap
Most shootings carried out here are by young black men - FACT
I'm sick of certain elements of the black community killing and robbing people with no remorse.
EVERYBODY starts off at the same level of consideration with me. All you can do is act to make my perception better, or worse
Unfortunately living in the south has made my perception of certain elements of the black community significantly worse. Having 2 friends in less than six months killed by young black men does nothing to improve my perception
Most shootings carried out here are by young black men - FACT
I'm sick of certain elements of the black community killing and robbing people with no remorse.
EVERYBODY starts off at the same level of consideration with me. All you can do is act to make my perception better, or worse
Unfortunately living in the south has made my perception of certain elements of the black community significantly worse. Having 2 friends in less than six months killed by young black men does nothing to improve my perception
Nov 13th 2005, 5:52 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Oh and as you pointed out most shootings in your area are by young black men. What effect does that have on your perception of young men?
Nov 13th 2005, 5:54 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by AmerLisa
I would imagine so.....especially considering that crime against that pregnant mother who was stabbed.....pretty horrifying.
Btw AWP, I didn't know you were police person.
Btw AWP, I didn't know you were police person.
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Nov 13th 2005, 6:01 pm
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Re: Local tragedy
Originally Posted by psb182
don't know about partstar but I for one would rather have someone come at me with one of those weapons rather than a gun......surley you can't be
serious????......your legs can get you away from all of those weapons but you can't run faster than a bullet
serious????......your legs can get you away from all of those weapons but you can't run faster than a bullet
Do you know the 21 foot rule? An average adult with a non-projectile weapon (eg a knife) can cover 21 feet from a standing start and hit you with it before you can react. Any vaguely accomplished knife carrier is as deadly as someone with a firearm at any distance you are likely to be attacked from. You wont even know you're being attacked with one until its too late.