elfman

Likewise with the stats in your link - that was my point.

Is that an admission that if you make guns available to the public more people will get killed? Shocker.

NC Penguin

For an international comparison of homicides (murders), please see this report , page 32 of 58. It's a report published by the Home Office in January 2005.



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scrubbedexpat099

Well if you want me to be specific, car park under my flat in Bermondsey.

Wanted my car keys....

Threw them away and did a runner, stupid, should have handed them over.

Yet to see a gun here, Boulder County, Colorado.

Well you can get a gun in Wal Mart, but banned from there. Missus has a big downer.

Bad area of Denver no doubt another issue.

I used to live near Hungerford, two of the people that died in the tradegy were buried in the Churchyard 100 yds away.

Now the logic of allowing people to have AK47's etc escapes me but so does the concentration on legal firearms, when nobody gives a damm on the illegal ones.

NC Penguin

So you lived in Bermondsey. I've lived in many parts of London in my lifetime and I've lived in the less some less genteel parts of the city (e.g., within half a mile of Holloway Prison) it would be ridiculous to label the whole of London (pop. 7.172 million according to the 2001 census) as dangerous and compare it to Boulder County, CO which no doubt has a far, far smaller population...

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scrubbedexpat099

Perhaps I should add that I do not have a gun, I have never fired a pistol, 22's at School, that may suggest how long ago it was, and 303's, bruised shoulder stuff and the odd clay pigeon shoot shotgun.

I do not feel the need, also small children present that would worry me.

In London I could feel the need. But I could not satisfy the need, legally.

elfman

Are you saying you got banned from Wal Mart? What happened?

Ray

In 2003/04, 858 deaths were initially recorded as homicide, a decrease of 18 per cent on 2002/03. After accounting for Shipman, the fall is 2 per cent and is the first annual fall since 1996. The 2003/04 total is still 15 per cent or 113 offences higher than five years previously.

A bit different to previous figures given...

scrubbedexpat099

Local joke, shop in Wally world and you will be socially ostracised, very un Boulder.

Troble is there is something I want to buy for Xmas at Sams Club....

NC Penguin

Let me guess. They sell AK47s?



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elfman

Oh right - at first it sounded like you might have committed some kind of indiscretion in there and were asked not to come back.

dbj1000

Does your social circle post surveillance to watch for social outcasts who shop at Wally World then?

Personally, I hate the place, and would never shop there out of choice, but if I did I'm at a loss to know how my friends and neighbors would know!

elfman

The report says that of those 858, 9% were due to shootings - ie 77 in total for 2003/04, as compared to 62 annual firearms homicides in my earlier link.

Ray

Murder is murder ... how its done ..does not really matter ...

scrubbedexpat099

Well how would they explain why they were there?

American version of 'just not the done thing'.

Like cuting the nose of the cheese.

Bob

only one having guns to the public? I thought gets were pretty easy to get hold of in Canada as well...