Laws I wish were enforced
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Re: Laws I wish were enforced
We have a photo radar van in our town. We only have two main highways going through town, one of which is 30mph and the other 50mph. Our van does not issue a ticket unless the vehicle is 11mph or more over the posted limit.
After all the cost of running the van, officer salary, court time and the Judges and two court staff salaries are paid, and all other admin cost, the van makes about $500k a year. That is how many people drive at least 11mph over the limit. It isn't like people don't know we have it, as our "speed trap" has featured on all the local news stations.
After all the cost of running the van, officer salary, court time and the Judges and two court staff salaries are paid, and all other admin cost, the van makes about $500k a year. That is how many people drive at least 11mph over the limit. It isn't like people don't know we have it, as our "speed trap" has featured on all the local news stations.
#17
Re: Laws I wish were enforced
It's been my experience that (traffic/any) laws are only enforced within sight of a police officer. Also, if there's a group of cars going faster than the limit then the police will pull over the slowest one. I hope the traffic fine goes towards the vehicle budget, so they can start to catch the faster ones.
#18
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Couple of days ago we were crossing the road in Boston on a 'walk' sign. A car turning left decided that rather than wait for us to cross he'd take the corner as fast as possible in front of us.
The police car behind him waited for us to cross, put on his blue lights, and immediately pulled him over. We waved as we passed him :-)
The police car behind him waited for us to cross, put on his blue lights, and immediately pulled him over. We waved as we passed him :-)
#19
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Cops down my way just watch and do nothing. There were two parked side by side and another across the street when a slew of cars didn't bother to stop while I was at the cross walk...
#20
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Re: Laws I wish were enforced
If you want better compliance with speed limits, then the answer usually lies in increasing the speed limit to a realistic level that accounts for how drivers use the road. (Most drivers will choose a speed that is appropriate for the highway design.) When compliance is low, then the problem is usually with the law, not with the driver.
If anything, low limits encourage scofflaws. Since the limits make no sense, some begin to presume that other controls are equally arbitrary. You shouldn't want a situation in which drivers come to believe that all of the laws, not just the limits, are arbitrary.
#21
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They were probably waiting for a specific person/ vehicle to show up. Pairs of cops waiting and watching are commonly on a specific assignment, not just looking for speeders and other low level infractions.
#22
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Though seriously, it would make sense if they were across town, but not at that particular junction
#24
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On my commute, I tend to stick to the limit - 65 on my bit of freeway. I frequently get overtaken/cut up by School Buses.
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Re: Laws I wish were enforced
The purpose of a speed limit should be to inform motorists of what is a safe speed. On a highway, a safe speed is generally determined by the flow of traffic. But most of our highway speed limits are set arbitrarily low. Drivers tend to choose a speed that they find to be comfortable, so the low limits only serve to increase the number of violators.
If you want better compliance with speed limits, then the answer usually lies in increasing the speed limit to a realistic level that accounts for how drivers use the road. (Most drivers will choose a speed that is appropriate for the highway design.) When compliance is low, then the problem is usually with the law, not with the driver.
If anything, low limits encourage scofflaws. Since the limits make no sense, some begin to presume that other controls are equally arbitrary. You shouldn't want a situation in which drivers come to believe that all of the laws, not just the limits, are arbitrary.
If you want better compliance with speed limits, then the answer usually lies in increasing the speed limit to a realistic level that accounts for how drivers use the road. (Most drivers will choose a speed that is appropriate for the highway design.) When compliance is low, then the problem is usually with the law, not with the driver.
If anything, low limits encourage scofflaws. Since the limits make no sense, some begin to presume that other controls are equally arbitrary. You shouldn't want a situation in which drivers come to believe that all of the laws, not just the limits, are arbitrary.
The rest of it is just an attempt at justification for individual drivers to make their own assessments of risks and to drive accordingly. That is the problem with compliance - it's not the law, it's more the fact that every driver arrogantly thinks that "they" know what's best.
Last edited by materialcontroller; May 27th 2013 at 12:22 pm.
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Re: Laws I wish were enforced
The only part of that which I agree with is the first sentence. Speed limits are about safety.
The rest of it is just an attempt at justification for individual drivers to make their own assessments of risks and to drive accordingly. That is the problem with compliance - it's not the law, it's more the fact that every driver arrogantly thinks that "they" know what's best.
The rest of it is just an attempt at justification for individual drivers to make their own assessments of risks and to drive accordingly. That is the problem with compliance - it's not the law, it's more the fact that every driver arrogantly thinks that "they" know what's best.
If that happens it seems to be coincidental.
#28
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That's not to say that speed limits aren't potentially employed for other reasons (eg. reducing emissions and environmental impact through increasing fuel economy is one).
#29
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So let's eliminate vehicular deaths by reducing all speed limits to 4mph and mandating that you must have someone walking ahead of each vehicle waiving a red flag!
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Round here money raising is the biggie.