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Old Aug 14th 2005, 10:46 pm
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Ok, I'm pissed off! I've just come back from the lake where I wanted to do some snorkel diving. When I got to the lake there was a tiny bit roped off for swimming with lifeguards watching over. I walked in the water with my diving mask and snorkel and was informed on the megaphone that masks were not allowed. Having had the same thing happen to me in the sea I went up to the lifeguard and asked him why. He informed me that if they had to do CPR on me the mask would be obstructing my nose!!! I told him that this was stupid, that I was an experienced diver etc. He said it was mainly for kids but they had to make a blanket rule, blah, blah... More likely they are worried about being sued or something! As I can't snorkel in the sea it seems like I can't do it anywhere in this part of America.

I realize I now miss the freedom of the coasts of Britain where beaches are not owned and you don't have to pay $10 to sit 3 inches from somebody else in the designated public section. I also miss not having Baywatch blowing the whistle for my every move! All this talk of freedom, I don't see it.
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Yes I bet you are bloody pissed off Now let's see if this thread take's off, because we do like a moan.
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Ok, I'm pissed off! I've just come back from the lake where I wanted to do some snorkel diving. When I got to the lake there was a tiny bit roped off for swimming with lifeguards watching over. I walked in the water with my diving mask and snorkel and was informed on the megaphone that masks were not allowed. Having had the same thing happen to me in the sea I went up to the lifeguard and asked him why. He informed me that if they had to do CPR on me the mask would be obstructing my nose!!! I told him that this was stupid, that I was an experienced diver etc. He said it was mainly for kids but they had to make a blanket rule, blah, blah... More likely they are worried about being sued or something! As I can't snorkel in the sea it seems like I can't do it anywhere in this part of America.

I realize I now miss the freedom of the coasts of Britain where beaches are not owned and you don't have to pay $10 to sit 3 inches from somebody else in the designated public section. I also miss not having Baywatch blowing the whistle for my every move! All this talk of freedom, I don't see it.
Just wondering where you live that you have to pay $$$ to sit on the beach. We have a beach up the road with free public access, lifeguards there during the summer season, and no ban on snorkeling (mind you, water's not always so clean, so probably not much to see ). I don't blame you for being annoyed though; the rule seems a bit extreme.
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Come to Florida .... we let you swim in the lakes ....no problem ..Ignore the stupid Gator signs.....
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Come to Florida .... we let you swim in the lakes ....no problem ..Ignore the stupid Gator signs.....
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Just wondering where you live that you have to pay $$$ to sit on the beach. .
Connecticut and also sometimes Rhode Island. The price varies, some places you are paying for the beach, some you just pay parking but I'm not going to be getting there any other way than by car here! The lake was $6 today. Maybe that was to pay bleedin Baywatch to treat me like a kid!
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Connecticut and also sometimes Rhode Island. The price varies, some places you are paying for the beach, some you just pay parking but I'm not going to be getting there any other way than by car here! The lake was $6 today. Maybe that was to pay bleedin Baywatch to treat me like a kid!
You also pay $7 a visit to go the beach (Lake Michigan) in Evanston, Illinois, and the other suburbs north of here. They also have teenagers in orange swimsuits who keep you in 2 feet of water at all times.
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Connecticut and also sometimes Rhode Island. The price varies, some places you are paying for the beach, some you just pay parking but I'm not going to be getting there any other way than by car here! The lake was $6 today. Maybe that was to pay bleedin Baywatch to treat me like a kid!
You should have offered him $20 more to look the other way.
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You also pay $7 a visit to go the beach (Lake Michigan) in Evanston, Illinois, and the other suburbs north of here. They also have teenagers in orange swimsuits who keep you in 2 feet of water at all times.

Yes, it was sad. Here was this great open lake with a little shallow area roped off. When I saw it I thought they were taking the piss!
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You also pay $7 a visit to go the beach (Lake Michigan) in Evanston, Illinois, and the other suburbs north of here. They also have teenagers in orange swimsuits who keep you in 2 feet of water at all times.
Blimey, makes me appreciate the free access to the beaches we have in Hampton Roads now.
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Yes, it was sad. Here was this great open lake with a little shallow area roped off. When I saw it I thought they were taking the piss!
Of course people do drown in Lake Michigan - but usually because they take their little teeny tiny boats out without paying any attention to the weather service that says there's going to be a major storm, or because they get dead drunk and fall off, or, if they don't have boats, they get dead drunk on shore and try to dive in off the rocks instead of going in at the beach.

I, on the other hand, just swim - after six when the teenagers have gone home.
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Ok, I'm pissed off! I've just come back from the lake where I wanted to do some snorkel diving. When I got to the lake there was a tiny bit roped off for swimming with lifeguards watching over. I walked in the water with my diving mask and snorkel and was informed on the megaphone that masks were not allowed. Having had the same thing happen to me in the sea I went up to the lifeguard and asked him why. He informed me that if they had to do CPR on me the mask would be obstructing my nose!!! I told him that this was stupid, that I was an experienced diver etc. He said it was mainly for kids but they had to make a blanket rule, blah, blah... More likely they are worried about being sued or something! As I can't snorkel in the sea it seems like I can't do it anywhere in this part of America.

I realize I now miss the freedom of the coasts of Britain where beaches are not owned and you don't have to pay $10 to sit 3 inches from somebody else in the designated public section. I also miss not having Baywatch blowing the whistle for my every move! All this talk of freedom, I don't see it.
Here in Southern California I am not allowed to take my dogs to the beach. I take them really early sometimes at 6 AM before the authorities are there. If caught I risk a ticket that is $150 or so??? One of the things I enjoyed on a recent visit to the UK was going to the beach with my BIL and his 2 dogs. You are also not allowed to smoke, go topless( females) and a list of many other things???????
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Blimey, makes me appreciate the free access to the beaches we have in Hampton Roads now.

Wonder what would happen if they tried to make people pay to swim in the Channel or the North Sea.
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Wonder what would happen if they tried to make people pay to swim in the Channel or the North Sea.
There'd probably be a riot
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There'd probably be a riot
I think they would be too helpless with laughter to actually riot.
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