danfan

BTW, I am not a stranger to guns. My husband was trained as a sniper in special forces. My FIL was a police officer for 30 years and has a huge gun collection. My opinions of guns and gun ownership are not rash but carefully considered.
I don't like guns at all, but know they are a big part of the culture here.

But culture or not, it doesn't mean any idiot should be allowed one. Just as a bad driver would lose his license, so I believe should an irresponsible gun owner.

danfan

Are we talking about stolen guns or lost guns? Big difference between someone breaking into a locked gun cabinet and the owner walking through a park and dropping it.

Elvira

Just because there are other things that cause accidental deaths is not reason to eliminate one cause that could easily be eliminated

Let's face it, life without cars would be pretty much impossible (unless you're Amish), but nobody actually *needs* a gun.

Ray

I have never known anybody to actually lose a gun ...
Stolen... yes !!!!

Ray

And the Amish manage without cars as you say ...
and they survive as do thousands who cannot afford one ...

Lycanthrop

No-on actually *needs* 15 cars either......you ought to see the feects of that in your part of the country........how many cars you see on the interstate or freeway at 6,7 and 8am with one person in them?

Try to organise a ride share with someone and you get looked at funny......or its just too inconvenient.

Lycanthrop

The also get mown down into the ditch as well........those buggies are only made of wood. Doesn't offer much protection against a ton of rolling steel........

Elvira

I'm sure some of our neighbours think we're weird. 5 adults and just one car...

But we do have 6 or 7 bicycles!

Ray

So I'm sure they feel cars should be banned

Lycanthrop

Good for you Ellllllll.......vira

Wierd?..........you are the strange family from "Europe" at the end of the block I'm sure.

Elvira

I expect we're seen as weird for all kinds of reasons that I won't go into...

danfan

Like I said, stolen is different (again, unless it's left lying around for anyone to pick it up and use).
But according to this story "Investigators tell CBS 11 News the gun was not buried or hidden and was most likely dropped by the owner."

Elvira

I'm not sure at all. From what I know about the Amish, they are quite tolerant towards outsiders. It's their own kind that need to tow the line though.

Lycanthrop

Dunno if you know this, but there's many shades of grey with Amish communities.....only know because I used to buy lumber from them for a wood shop in a previous life.

Some will borrow a skill-saw, some will only use a hammer and nails. Some will take a ride in a car wheras others won't go near one. They're an odd bunch, but do lead a peacefull existance for sure.

Lycanthrop

Are you referring to ......... "ze wilding"