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Old Aug 11th 2004, 4:25 pm
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Since John Kerry is running on a "War Hero" platform, he has opened up the issue of his actual conduct/service record while in Vietnam. Here's a link to fellow Swift Boat commanders/crew who served with Kerry during his 4 months of duty in Vietnam. Most seem to have a much different opinion of him than the group of vets traveling with Kerry on the campaign trail.

http://www.swiftvets.com/
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Originally Posted by ironporer
Since John Kerry is running on a "War Hero" platform, he has opened up the issue of his actual conduct/service record while in Vietnam. Here's a link to fellow Swift Boat commanders/crew who served with Kerry during his 4 months of duty in Vietnam. Most seem to have a much different opinion of him than the group of vets traveling with Kerry on the campaign trail.

http://www.swiftvets.com/

These guys have already been discredited - they ran an advert recently that everyone including the GOP distanced themselves from. Turns out this gang of vets are being bankrolled by some rabid southern right-winger....

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...20Kerry%20Book
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Have a look at Jon Stewart's take of the story on the Daily Show
http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play...ines/9016.html
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Default Re: Kerry's war record- interesting info

Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
Have a look at Jon Stewart's take of the story on the Daily Show
http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play...ines/9016.html
If I was a religious person, I would thank God for the Daily Show

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http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play...bert_9011.html
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Default Re: Kerry's war record- interesting info

I can understand someone not wanting to support Kerry because you dont share his views (personally I find him a little right wing for my taste) but what the hell is wrong with people that they have to try to drag down his war record?

Get over it. You dont support him and wont vote for him, fine, its your right(until Ashcroft gets round to removing it anyway). But does it hurt that much to admit he served his country with honor and bravery in a war zone?

I dont support Bush because i dont like his policies, the fact that as a young man he skived off going to Vietnam and was an alcoholic coke fiend is not the reason I wouldnt support him.
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The Daily show piece was spot on. The people who bankrolled this ad, were the same people who tried to smear John McCain in 2000, when they cold called people in North Carolina telling them that McCain had a black baby. McCain went on to lose that primary. McCain must shudder everytime he has to endorse Bush for re-election.
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Default Re: Kerry's war record- interesting info

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I can understand someone not wanting to support Kerry because you dont share his views (personally I find him a little right wing for my taste) but what the hell is wrong with people that they have to try to drag down his war record?

Get over it. You dont support him and wont vote for him, fine, its your right(until Ashcroft gets round to removing it anyway). But does it hurt that much to admit he served his country with honor and bravery in a war zone?

I dont support Bush because i dont like his policies, the fact that as a young man he skived off going to Vietnam and was an alcoholic coke fiend is not the reason I wouldnt support him.
I didn't really expect anyone to actually read any of the info given sorry to say. I suppose I found it curious in trying to formulate an opinion about this man's character, or lack of. If Kerry had a record to judge him by, one might be able to use that in trying to figure out what he stands for. Alas, his record is like that of too may pols- whichever way the wind blows at the time, he supports. Much in the website given points to the same thing- the only thing Kerry supports is HIMSELF. Which one can also say about Bush, unfortunately. The choices for President that I am presented with this year thoroughly disgust me.
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Originally Posted by ironporer
I didn't really expect anyone to actually read any of the info given sorry to say. I suppose I found it curious in trying to formulate an opinion about this man's character, or lack of. If Kerry had a record to judge him by, one might be able to use that in trying to figure out what he stands for. Alas, his record is like that of too may pols- whichever way the wind blows at the time, he supports. Much in the website given points to the same thing- the only thing Kerry supports is HIMSELF. Which one can also say about Bush, unfortunately. The choices for President that I am presented with this year thoroughly disgust me.
Agreed- but I think Kerry is the lesser of two evils. The election campaigning and process as a whole here disgusts me. It's no wonder the US has such an abysmal turnout at the polls- people get pig sick of the whole show by the time it comes to actually vote....and the good guys have been slamdunked by the media (or the ones controlling the media) before they can get off the ground and really get in the running.
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Default Re: Kerry's war record- interesting info

Originally Posted by ironporer
I didn't really expect anyone to actually read any of the info given sorry to say. I suppose I found it curious in trying to formulate an opinion about this man's character, or lack of. If Kerry had a record to judge him by, one might be able to use that in trying to figure out what he stands for. Alas, his record is like that of too may pols- whichever way the wind blows at the time, he supports. Much in the website given points to the same thing- the only thing Kerry supports is HIMSELF. Which one can also say about Bush, unfortunately. The choices for President that I am presented with this year thoroughly disgust me.
Theres lots of record to judge him by. What you mean is he doesnt fit with what you want politcally so you unjustifably run down his character instead.

Being a politician is a pretty hard job and often involves taking into account the views of constituents in making your own decisions. If he didnt then you would whinge he is an elitist who doesnt listen to the people. Instead he is flip flopper who blows with his constituents views. He or any other pol just cant win. Its so easy to complain about politicians but you go try doing it and see how easy it is to keep twats like you happy whilst holding to your own conscience.
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