Just an idle question ...
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Just an idle question ...
I'm one of those frustrated teens; full of pie-in-the-sky ideas, without the ability to make any of them happen. Without boring you all with teary stories of how I can't join the excellent friends and such I've got in the US, mainly becuase I don't hold a degree, or any other chance of applying for family/etc visas, I've a question on the Green Card Lottery.
I see the United Kingdom isn't eligible, which I have no problem with, but why is N. Ireland, as part of the UK, eligible?
At first I thought this becuase each of the parts of the UK are counted individually for the 50,000 limit, but this can't be right as the entirety of UK Overseas territories are excluded, including those who couldn't hope to send a fraction of the 50,000 limit to the US in legal immigration. Since it must be the UK as a whole, why do the Northern Irish recieve preferential treatment over the Scottish, for example? [Which I am]
I see the United Kingdom isn't eligible, which I have no problem with, but why is N. Ireland, as part of the UK, eligible?
At first I thought this becuase each of the parts of the UK are counted individually for the 50,000 limit, but this can't be right as the entirety of UK Overseas territories are excluded, including those who couldn't hope to send a fraction of the 50,000 limit to the US in legal immigration. Since it must be the UK as a whole, why do the Northern Irish recieve preferential treatment over the Scottish, for example? [Which I am]
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Kaenei
I'm one of those frustrated teens; full of pie-in-the-sky ideas, without the ability to make any of them happen. Without boring you all with teary stories of how I can't join the excellent friends and such I've got in the US, mainly becuase I don't hold a degree, or any other chance of applying for family/etc visas, I've a question on the Green Card Lottery.
I see the United Kingdom isn't eligible, which I have no problem with, but why is N. Ireland, as part of the UK, eligible?
At first I thought this becuase each of the parts of the UK are counted individually for the 50,000 limit, but this can't be right as the entirety of UK Overseas territories are excluded, including those who couldn't hope to send a fraction of the 50,000 limit to the US in legal immigration. Since it must be the UK as a whole, why do the Northern Irish recieve preferential treatment over the Scottish, for example? [Which I am]
I see the United Kingdom isn't eligible, which I have no problem with, but why is N. Ireland, as part of the UK, eligible?
At first I thought this becuase each of the parts of the UK are counted individually for the 50,000 limit, but this can't be right as the entirety of UK Overseas territories are excluded, including those who couldn't hope to send a fraction of the 50,000 limit to the US in legal immigration. Since it must be the UK as a whole, why do the Northern Irish recieve preferential treatment over the Scottish, for example? [Which I am]
I await the sling and arrows
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Chandler
I speak from a position of weakness, but could it be because there is a strong lobby over here for Ireland being 'united'. with those in the North being merely a repressed minority?
I await the sling and arrows
I await the sling and arrows
Seems as far as I can tell, a pretty sweet quirk for them.
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Kaenei
Since it must be the UK as a whole, why do the Northern Irish recieve preferential treatment over the Scottish, for example? [Which I am]
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by fatbrit
Kennedy, Eduardo.
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Kaenei
Excuse me? I don't understand that.
A well-known senator from a very rich political family who claims Irish Catholic ancestry. You're looking for logic where it doesn't exist. The DV was politics, pure and dirty. Although I like the ideals of it...
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by fatbrit
A well-known senator from a very rich political family who claims Irish Catholic ancestry. You're looking for logic where it doesn't exist. The DV was politics, pure and dirty. Although I like the ideals of it...
Ah well, looks like a life in the States is just out of my reach - Cheers anyway gents.
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Kaenei
Really? I admit, I'm more than a little disappointed. I was hoping you'd come up with some obscure legislation or something that would give me more to accept than crookedness.
Ah well, looks like a life in the States is just out of my reach - Cheers anyway gents.
Ah well, looks like a life in the States is just out of my reach - Cheers anyway gents.
Depends how much you want it...
Counting on the DV is not much of a plan A, more like a plan Z.
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Kaenei
Really? I admit, I'm more than a little disappointed. I was hoping you'd come up with some obscure legislation or something that would give me more to accept than crookedness.
Ah well, looks like a life in the States is just out of my reach - Cheers anyway gents.
Ah well, looks like a life in the States is just out of my reach - Cheers anyway gents.
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Wintersong
Just a thought, but you come across as being an intelligent kind of person... have you thought about applying to study in the US if you have the funds?
I'm twenty years old, from a single-parent family in a bit of a rundown area; there's just no money for such an expensive outing. Even if I had the money for the course, there's no way to afford expenses and such.
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Kaenei
I wish sorely I could, but I've no way of getting together the thousands of thousands of dollars needed to pay for a course in advance - I assume also the student visa's [J-1 or F-1 I believe] don't entitle you to work whilst you're doing the course.
I'm twenty years old, from a single-parent family in a bit of a rundown area; there's just no money for such an expensive outing. Even if I had the money for the course, there's no way to afford expenses and such.
I'm twenty years old, from a single-parent family in a bit of a rundown area; there's just no money for such an expensive outing. Even if I had the money for the course, there's no way to afford expenses and such.
I don't know if it's possible, I'm just throwing some suggestions into the air
Failing that, marry an American girl
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Wintersong
Is there any chance you could find a company to sponsor you?
I don't know if it's possible, I'm just throwing some suggestions into the air
Failing that, marry an American girl
I don't know if it's possible, I'm just throwing some suggestions into the air
Failing that, marry an American girl
On the marriage front, I'd need cosmetic surgery to make myself less than ugly in the extreme.
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Kaenei
I'm one of those frustrated teens; full of pie-in-the-sky ideas, without the ability to make any of them happen. Without boring you all with teary stories of how I can't join the excellent friends and such I've got in the US, mainly becuase I don't hold a degree, or any other chance of applying for family/etc visas, I've a question on the Green Card Lottery.
I see the United Kingdom isn't eligible, which I have no problem with, but why is N. Ireland, as part of the UK, eligible?
At first I thought this becuase each of the parts of the UK are counted individually for the 50,000 limit, but this can't be right as the entirety of UK Overseas territories are excluded, including those who couldn't hope to send a fraction of the 50,000 limit to the US in legal immigration. Since it must be the UK as a whole, why do the Northern Irish recieve preferential treatment over the Scottish, for example? [Which I am]
I see the United Kingdom isn't eligible, which I have no problem with, but why is N. Ireland, as part of the UK, eligible?
At first I thought this becuase each of the parts of the UK are counted individually for the 50,000 limit, but this can't be right as the entirety of UK Overseas territories are excluded, including those who couldn't hope to send a fraction of the 50,000 limit to the US in legal immigration. Since it must be the UK as a whole, why do the Northern Irish recieve preferential treatment over the Scottish, for example? [Which I am]
I would take a guess it's because N. Ireland is not part of Great Britain.
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Kaenei
On the marriage front, I'd need cosmetic surgery to make myself less than ugly in the extreme.
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Re: Just an idle question ...
Originally Posted by Duncan Roberts
I would take a guess it's because N. Ireland is not part of Great Britain.
Precisely how is it not, in every legal and political sense, part of Great Britain?