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abboy Oct 27th 2006 6:34 pm

Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 
My son is choosing between two colleges in CA. One is private and one is public. Both are nationally ranked in top 15 colleges.

One Ivy league college has also express interest in him but he does not want to go because its setting is in the east coast in a rural area.

I told him to choose Ivy league school instead since we will be paying almost the same amount of tuition with the out of state colleges.

What are your thought guys on education here? Is there a difference if one came from Ivy league or from a top ranked colleges?

Manc Oct 27th 2006 6:41 pm

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 
it's not what you know, it's who you know.

Jerseygirl Oct 27th 2006 7:32 pm

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 
Take a look at the following...it is supposed to be a neutral list of university rankings worldwide. (Press the cancel button when the box appears...there's no need to install.)

http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006TOP500list.htm

Thydney Oct 28th 2006 12:53 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 
Dubya is a Ivy leaguer :D :D :D

Dan725 Oct 28th 2006 12:56 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 
My thought on education here is that its piggin' expensive. Being as it sounds like you are well heeled, then of course private and Ivy league is the way to go. Alumni is a big thing here as Manc says, and if you graduate from Harvard/Princeton etc, its highly unlikely that you'll ever be out of work or in a low paid job for long.

Elvira Oct 28th 2006 1:14 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 

Originally Posted by abboy
My son is choosing between two colleges in CA. One is private and one is public. Both are nationally ranked in top 15 colleges.

One Ivy league college has also express interest in him but he does not want to go because its setting is in the east coast in a rural area.

I told him to choose Ivy league school instead since we will be paying almost the same amount of tuition with the out of state colleges.

What are your thought guys on education here? Is there a difference if one came from Ivy league or from a top ranked colleges?

Has your son visited those colleges? Which one does he feel more comfortable with?

But how can he be choosing this early? AFAIK, applications are not due until the end of November, and decisions will not be announced for a few months yet (not until March, for UC schools).

Elvira Oct 28th 2006 1:17 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 

Originally Posted by Dan725
........Alumni is a big thing here as Manc says, and if you graduate from Harvard/Princeton etc, its highly unlikely that you'll ever be out of work or in a low paid job for long.

Be that as it may, there is not point in going to a school which is a poor fit.

Jerseygirl Oct 28th 2006 1:18 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 

Originally Posted by Elvira
Has your son visited those colleges? Which one does he feel more comfortable with?

But how can he be choosing this early? AFAIK, applications are not due until the end of November, and decisions will not be announced for a few months yet (not until March, for UC schools).

You can apply for early application. Students apply at the beginning of senior year...an offer is made before Christmas. My daughter's school encouraged all the students to apply early.

Jerseygirl Oct 28th 2006 1:19 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 

Originally Posted by Elvira
Be that as it may, there is not point in going to a school which is a poor fit.

Very true...my daughter's friend tried to commit suicide last week...due to her inability to cope with the pressure of work.

Elvira Oct 28th 2006 1:22 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
You can apply for early application. Students apply at the beginning of senior year...an offer is made before Christmas. My daughter's school encouraged all the students to apply early.

That only works with the private schools. The University of California does not announce decisions until March. Berkeley is particularly perverse in that they wait till midnight on March 31 :rolleyes: (I am guessing that's the public shcool the OP is referring to, or possibly UCLA...)

Jerseygirl Oct 28th 2006 1:30 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 

Originally Posted by Elvira
That only works with the private schools. The University of California does not announce decisions until March. Berkeley is particularly perverse in that they wait till midnight on March 31 :rolleyes: (I am guessing that's the public shcool the OP is referring to, or possibly UCLA...)


U of T announce in June/July. We told them she needed to know early because of other offers...they offered her a place just after Christmas. It can be done if they want a particular student.

dbj1000 Oct 28th 2006 1:51 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Take a look at the following...it is supposed to be a neutral list of university rankings worldwide. (Press the cancel button when the box appears...there's no need to install.)

http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006TOP500list.htm

Thanks for the link! Interesting reading.

Jerseygirl Oct 28th 2006 1:54 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 

Originally Posted by dbj1000
Thanks for the link! Interesting reading.


It's a little more balanced than the US version of the top 100 universities worldwide. :rolleyes:

Ben Oct 28th 2006 2:02 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 
Doesn't it also depend on what you want to study?

BigDavyG Oct 28th 2006 2:18 am

Re: Ivy league or Private or State universities?
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
Take a look at the following...it is supposed to be a neutral list of university rankings worldwide. (Press the cancel button when the box appears...there's no need to install.)

http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006TOP500list.htm

Do you think recruiters for jobs after college read those stats ??
Unless you are looking for a job that directly follows on from your degree pick the Ivy League school every time for the impact on your resume and the chance to network whilst at college.


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